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Agents of Shield - Season 4

At this point nobody believes in Ghost or the religious based supernatural even if Lincoln said Inhumans came about by intelligent design.

Lincoln was not talking about anything religious there, despite the use of that phrase. He was referring to the fact that Inhumans were genetically engineered by the Kree.
 
Actually, wasn't Lincoln talking about Inhuman powers developing to fill specific needs?

Same topic. The Kree engineered the Inhumans so that their powers would develop to fill specific needs. Therefore it was "intelligently designed" evolution instead of natural selection.
 
Same topic. The Kree engineered the Inhumans so that their powers would develop to fill specific needs. Therefore it was "intelligently designed" evolution instead of natural selection.
But the supernatural claim comes up when Lincoln has to explain how the Kree would know that the guardians of the crystals and their temple would loss control and random people would go through terragenisis leaving a clairvoyant in place just when needed or have a Lash in place just in time for a Hive to return to Earth? Which seemed more the spirit of his statement than x number of Inhumans will have flame powers and y number would have some kind of telekinesis.
 
But the supernatural claim comes up when Lincoln has to explain how the Kree would know that the guardians of the crystals and their temple would loss control and random people would go through terragenisis leaving a clairvoyant in place just when needed or have a Lash in place just in time for a Hive to return to Earth? Which seemed more the spirit of his statement than x number of Inhumans will have flame powers and y number would have some kind of telekinesis.
You're dealing with a race that has the power to instill Clairvoyance and other crazy powers in people. What's so hard to understand about them being able to engineer the mist so that it can instill those very powers to begin with?

Sufficiently advanced technology, and all that.
 
The firm hand of the Kree stopped holding the Inhuman Rudder 30,000 years ago... but that would not superseded an AI monitoring and nudging things along, but that would mean that that AI would have to be able to forecast the needs of the species and the forces working against them, too, and that terrigenesis is not random.
 
I think you're missing the crux of what I was saying.

Inhuman superpowers are the result of extremely advanced technology. Nothing about it is supernatural in the way Dr. Strange or Ghost Rider are. But it might as well be due to just how advanced it is. Try as you might, but you can't rationalize away a normal human being able to fly, create earthquakes, turn into living flame, discharge lightning, or any of the other amazing powers Inhumans have. So why, then, do you have to be able to rationalize how the mist is able to grant powers that are 'needed' by the Inhumans? How is that more supernatural than clairvoyance, teleport, create illusions, super speed, or any of the other countless powers Inhumans have?
 
^Pretty sure they actually called it "the Darkhold" in the episode.
Yeah, somebody on another site mentioned that to me. I totally missed it.

From what I gather that thing also created vampires, so there's a possible in for Blade as well. ;)
And Hannibal King. :mallory:

There's a joke in there.
And it was made by Roy Thomas in the early 70s. I think it was the 80s before I got it. :rommie:

@RJDiogenes -- The Darkhold was mentioned by name.
Thanks. It totally got by me.

No way could Coulson... glad hand like this new guy.
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But the supernatural claim comes up when Lincoln has to explain how the Kree would know that the guardians of the crystals and their temple would loss control and random people would go through terragenisis leaving a clairvoyant in place just when needed or have a Lash in place just in time for a Hive to return to Earth? Which seemed more the spirit of his statement than x number of Inhumans will have flame powers and y number would have some kind of telekinesis.

I don't recall anything supernatural about it. I don't think it was supposed to be prophetic. Rather, the way it was supposed to work was that all the powers would be part of the gene pool at once in every generation, balancing each other out in the slave force the Kree had intended to create and maintain. But since the experiment was abandoned, only certain Inhumans ever happened to go through Terrigenesis, so most of the genetic traits remained latent in successive generations and were never manifested. So the way it's turned out to happen in actuality was not the way the Kree intended it to happen.
 
That must be where everyone is getting it from, because I don't remember them ever saying his last name in the episode.
I got it because he was referred to as Jeffrey in the episode and because I was aware of the speculation before the episode started based on O'Mara's comments that it was a manly name.
 
The Clairvoyance?
Back from season 1 when Raina thought she was working for a The Clairvoyant when it turned out he just had a high level SHIELD security clearance but her Inhuman enhancement turned out to be clairvoyance with a stinger of losing her physical beauty in trade.
 
Little of both with the wordplay. His coworkers were definitely talking about the return of the Rams to LA (American football, for any of those outside the US or non-sports fans in general), and Robbie's answer is a bit of burn in that sense, making like he's a Raiders fan. But the audience also gets the car reference as well.
I don't see how Robbie could have been saying anything other than that he is a Raiders' fan. The entire exchange was about football. His co-worker chided him for not watching the Rams after their return to L.A. after 20 years. Robbie's reply was an explanation of why he had no interest in watching the Rams. Besides that, his use of a nickname (Silver and Black) that Raiders fans are all familiar with, to me, cements the fact that we were being told that he is a Raiders' fan. The car is black (and cool AF, btw), but not "silver" and black.

Google "silver and black" and see how many non-Raiders references come up
 
Like everyone else, I only came here for Ghost Rider.

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The car is black (and cool AF, btw), but not "silver" and black.

As already noted, the car itself is black, but all of it's accents are silver. Also, the lingering shot on the car as the line is delivered/immediately after it.

Here's the thing though, the line INTENTIONALLY works both ways. It's entirely possible that even Robbie didn't catch the double meaning, and he just meant to smack talk the Rams fans. Personally, I think he was talking about the car, and just chose his words to hide his true meaning from he coworkers. Either way, it's a fun double meaning that adds flavor for the audience.
 
As already noted, the car itself is black, but all of it's accents are silver.
You mean the bumpers and the door handles? Pretty much all cars of that era had silver bumpers and door handles.

Here's the thing though, the line INTENTIONALLY works both ways. It's entirely possible that even Robbie didn't catch the double meaning, and he just meant to smack talk the Rams fans. Personally, I think he was talking about the car, and just chose his words to hide his true meaning from he coworkers. Either way, it's a fun double meaning that adds flavor for the audience.
It's only a double meaning if you aren't an NFL fan or perhaps, aren't a Raiders' fan.

When I first heard the line I thought that maybe the episode's writer was a Radiers fan, but then I thought, maybe not. I now think the writer was telling us a bit more about Robbie personally. When the Raiders were in L.A., they had a huge hispanic following. And despite the NFL's return to l.A. in the form of the Rams, it makes way more sense that Robbie would be a Raiders fan than a Rams fan for all sorts of reasons.
 
Yeah, that's my take. In context, it makes far and away the most sense to anyone familiar enough with NFL history (or with NWA for that matter).
 
Yeah, that's my take. In context, it makes far and away the most sense to anyone familiar enough with NFL history (or with NWA for that matter).

Except that Robbie's NFL loyalties are irrelevant to the show. It's useless information. Whereas, his bond to the car is extremely relevant, given the fact that he's Ghost Rider. Which do we think the writers are more likely to be referencing with a line like that. Really?
 
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