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Agents of Shield - Season 4

I like how Syndrome was clearly a villain by doing the same thing that Hank Pym once did (while simultaneously hitting his wife) and was just misunderstood. ;)
Huh?

How on earth was Syndrome "misunderstood?" He was a spoiled kid who, because he didn't get what he wanted, spent the rest of his life going on a murderous rampage to try and make everyone love him. That's not "misunderstood." Like, at all. There's not even an inkling of redemption or sympathy for him...
 
Huh?

How on earth was Syndrome "misunderstood?" He was a spoiled kid who, because he didn't get what he wanted, spent the rest of his life going on a murderous rampage to try and make everyone love him. That's not "misunderstood." Like, at all. There's not even an inkling of redemption or sympathy for him...

Reread the post. Syndrome: Villain, Hank Pym: 'Misunderstood'.
 
To be fair, at least Pym was also basically having a mental breakdown. Syndrome was just evil, Pym wasn't in his right mind in the story and then the artist made it worse.
 
Except, as I pointed out, the other thing he did in that issue was pretty villainous too - at least, if you consider Syndrome to be a villain.
Oh, definitely villainous, just with the caveat of his mental illness (caused by exposure to chemicals years ago). But they never should have let him walk away.
 
Agents of SHIELD: *heavily teases a Coulson-May romance*
The Trek BBS: *spends eight full pages debating whether magic is science, either on the show or in general*

... Never change, everyone. :p Happy New Year to my fellow SHIELD-ers!
 
:rommie:

Same to you. :bolian:

And, sadly, Coulson is being teased by an LMD. Of course, what happens when the real May finds out that Coulson responded to the LMD is the question.
 
Agents of SHIELD: *heavily teases a Coulson-May romance*


... Never change, everyone. :p Happy New Year to my fellow SHIELD-ers!

I thought at first that in season 1 Sky was May and Coulson 's secret child...i think the 3 of them would make a great family in another production
 
And, sadly, Coulson is being teased by an LMD. Of course, what happens when the real May finds out that Coulson responded to the LMD is the question.
But the teasing started with Real May, surely? I thought the LMD only took over in this last ep, when May was sent to pick up Aida for the LA mission, and this possible romance has been teased since Real May decided to use the Darkhold if necessary to bring him (and Fitz) back.
 
Yeah, Coulson and May have been flirting since before Radcliffe and Aida even became part of the show.
I think they view each other as close friends. Coulson showed to still have a thing for that cellist and May and Andrew were an item since before the show with Andrew only dying last season.
 
I think they view each other as close friends. Coulson showed to still have a thing for that cellist and May and Andrew were an item since before the show with Andrew only dying last season.

On the surface, sure, but there's been a subtext of something more for a while.
 
They are long time colleagues with frequent life and death situations to navigate. They are good at their jobs and know that they can depend on each other, but is it more than that? There has been no prolonged touching or longing glances that I can remember. Seems more like long time close friends, but I could have missed the clues.
 
They are long time colleagues with frequent life and death situations to navigate. They are good at their jobs and know that they can depend on each other, but is it more than that? There has been no prolonged touching or longing glances that I can remember. Seems more like long time close friends, but I could have missed the clues.

They're not teenagers. The hints of attraction have been more subtle than that. I actually never really noticed them myself, but I heard comments from others -- including maybe the actors themselves -- acknowledging that there was a subtle subtext to their interactions, a chemistry that was there even though neither character was consciously pursuing it.
 
They probably do love each other but I can't recall any sign of them being in love with each other and when May told Coulson recently that he was the last thing she saw before dying, Coulson's reply was more of a disbelief than acknowledging that there was something there.
 
I'm not much of a shipper so I find it hard to get as worked up about this kind of thing as others.

Personally, I always liked that Coulson and May are partners with no romantic interest in each other. Traditionally in cop movies and the like, partners are portrayed as married couples regardless of gender and orientation (usually two straight men.) I find it refreshing to see two heterosexuals of opposite genders have a deep, meaningful connection and *not* necessarily wind up sleeping together. So yeah, count me as somewhat disappointed if they're really going in this direction.

That said, I'm largely OK with it so long as it makes sense in the context of the narrative and isn't being driven by some external mandate.
 
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But the teasing started with Real May, surely? I thought the LMD only took over in this last ep, when May was sent to pick up Aida for the LA mission, and this possible romance has been teased since Real May decided to use the Darkhold if necessary to bring him (and Fitz) back.
There's no doubt that May and Coulson are devoted to each other, but I'm pretty sure this whole business of some kind of corner having been turned and breaking out the bottle of special something and so forth was instigated by the LMD and as a means to an end.
 
It's more likely Coulson broke out the bottle because he almost died (again) and he's thanking May for saving him.
 
I've been binging past seasons over the holidays and wanted to share my thoughts. I will try not to go into tl;dr territory.

I think the first season gets kind of a bum rap. Despite the episodic/procedural nature of the first half of the season, I find that there is a lot about the early days that I miss. The close-knit nature of Coulson's team. The Bus. Big SHIELD, and all of the various facilities (The Sandbox, The Fridge, The Hub, etc), even good-guy Ward.

There were a few clunkers (0-8-4, FZZT, Repairs), but the characters were strong right off the bat. Fitz quickly became the show's most quotable, and by the end of the season, most heroic characters.

The mystery of Coulson's resurrection could have been handled a little better perhaps, but I was largely satisfied with the outcome. Knowing that Centipede was a cover for HYDRA gave that thread more of a sense of urgency and dread, and I enjoyed the various episodes that pushed that thread forward (Pilot, Eye-Spy, Girl in the Flower Dress, The Bridge, The Magical Place).

The second half of the season is when things started rolling. From what started as a fun adventure in TRACKS, turned dark by the end with Quinn's shooting of Skye, marking the beginning of the show embracing its darker tendencies. From there, it was just a snowball growing larger as it went down the hill. The hunt for the Clairvoyant, the rift between Coulson and May, the ascension of HYDRA, the betrayal of Ward and Coulson's team going underground to seek out justice made the second half of S1 a wild ride.

The finale, while almost a little too "Whedon-y", was a lot of fun. Fitz's heart-breaking admission and sacrifice, Fury's nick of time arrivals for Simmons and later for Coulson with the Destroyer gun ("I know what it does"), the final fate of Garrett, and Fury handing over SHIELD to Coulson were all great. Although, upon re-watching, it's painfully obvious that Samuel L. Jackson and Bill Paxton were never on set together.

Random thoughts-- I want to see Akela Amador again. Whatever happened to Ian Quinn and the gravitonium?

The second season built on the first in almost nothing but good ways. The new agents, the larger scope and the introduction of the Inhumans were all organically and smoothly accomplished. New characters like Bobbi, Hunter and Mac fit right in as they've always been there. The death of Tripp was emotional and dramatic.

The "real SHIELD", Cal, Jiyang and the Inhumans of Afterlife all provided exciting dramatic adversaries for our heroes. The only let-down on the bad guy side was perhaps the anti-climactic death of Daniel Whitehall.

Random thought-- What ever happened to the Koenig brothers?

The third season is the only one that I consider a bit of a stumble. The show was already struggling to justify Ward's continued existence in S2, and by S3 he had just about completely worn out his welcome. I didn't really care for the secret history of HYDRA or HYDRA's convenient connection to ancient Inhumans. There were too many threads that built up to disappointing climaxes (Secret Warriors, Werner Von Strucker, Lash, even Malick) for it to be that satisfying in a re-watch. There were some things that I liked-- Daisy's comic book look and the introduction of Yo-Yo and other Secret Warriors elements.

Random thought-- Bring back Deathlok!

So far, season four has been great. Shifting the story away from HYDRA, Inhumans and Ward, along with the new status quo at SHIELD, gives the show a new, breath of fresh air kind of feeling. Also helping in this feeling of renewal is the new focus on mystical threats and AI, which, as mentioned is a welcome change from HYDRA, Inhumans and Ward.
 
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