Nobody. Hence the use of the word "could."
They could come back in a big way, just like they could come back in a small way or could even not come back at all.
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Nobody. Hence the use of the word "could."
They could come back in a big way, just like they could come back in a small way or could even not come back at all.
Except they already came back on the show what with the whole being run by Ward now thing.
Besides SHIELD was destroyed, it bases trashed, it agents arrested or moving to other jobs, and its resources grabbed by HYDRA. Yet one year later they have enough people a resources to run a secret base, and an aircraft carrier, refit and crew a helicarrier, and run at least 1 squadron of quinjets. SO please explain how HYDRA is screwed just by being in the same position.
Unless Modok enters the picture I think we've seen the last of AIM, but Killian wasn't in command of the Ten Fingers, that remains a mystery.
Are going to be too busy pounding the crap out of each other soon.
They didn't "come back" so much as those three loosers and possibly some letter headed stationary is about all that's left after SHIELD and the Avengers cleaned house. Not even remotely the same thing since those guys didn't exactly go anywhere.
Assuming thats is all thats left. Coulson and his team though they were all that was left of SHIELD and then bumped into another better equipped SHIELD group nobody else knew about.
And with Crossbones and Zemo (aka two guys from HYDRA) being the villains for Civil War it is possible HYDRA or at least whats left of it movie side is showing up there.
I think AIM is a very viable candidate for Agents of SHIELD (yellow beekeeper suits and all). I'd even push for inclusion of MODOK, although that'll take some guts.
Ten Rings were an Iron Man thing and should stay that way. There's overlap between subjects, but they also all deserve their own sphere of exclusivity. Plus, it's not like they're overwhelmingly interesting.
Plus you have to go about separating them from AIM's Mandarin smokescreen plot if you want to use them.
It's part of my "headcanon" (not crazy about that word, but it's taken on a specific meaning) that Killian and AIM in Iron Man 3 were a Hydra front the whole time. After all, AIM targeted President Ellis for assassination in IM3, and then the following year Hydra had Ellis as one of their manymanymanymany targets for Project Insight. There's also the fact that Centipede, which turned out to be a Hydra project, included Extremis as a key component in their supersoldier cocktail. (Man, that sentence would be total word salad to the uninitiated.) It's not a smoking gun, but it's suggestive of a link between AIM and Hydra. I'd like to see the MCU make that explicit. I'm a bit surprised they haven't already.
It's also possible that AIM was infiltrated by HYDRA without Killian necessarily being a Hailer himself.
^Sure, but it's more satisfying if Killian was really working for Hydra all along. It lends a greater unity to Phase 2.
I dunno...I prefer a subtler connection where no explicit connection was made in the films.
I was thinking...somebody upthread said that the Ten Rings isn't something that AoS would do, but I think that would be a nice thread for them to pick up. Since there's no IM4 on the current slate, and the makers of IM3 didn't care enough to make an explicit connection between the Mandarin and the Ten Rings...AoS could pick up where the One-Shot left off and have SHIELD taking on the "real" Mandarin. If plain-Jane terrorism doesn't seem SHIELDy enough, they could have the Ten Rings getting ahold of some alien tech, developing metahuman agents, whatever.
Maybe they've even got Samuel Sterns working for them....
I was thinking...somebody upthread said that the Ten Rings isn't something that AoS would do, but I think that would be a nice thread for them to pick up. Since there's no IM4 on the current slate, and the makers of IM3 didn't care enough to make an explicit connection between the Mandarin and the Ten Rings...AoS could pick up where the One-Shot left off and have SHIELD taking on the "real" Mandarin. If plain-Jane terrorism doesn't seem SHIELDy enough, they could have the Ten Rings getting ahold of some alien tech, developing metahuman agents, whatever.
Maybe they've even got Samuel Sterns working for them....
You could tie in the fact that AIM and Obadiah Stane before them were both running false flag terrorist operations to sell weapons and cover-up malfunctions (among other reasons), and HYDRA mentioned that they had also been creating chaos around the globe for decades in order to create enough fear that the public would accept their severe measures to establish order. So those could theoretically all be part of one large, loosely connected cell-like operation managed behind the scenes by HYDRA.
Yeah I can see AIM coming up at some point in some form. MODOK my be a little tricky unless they drastically reinvent the design.
Not sure I agree about the Ten Rings though. The solo Iron Man films are supposedly over and done with, so they should be fair game. Plus the 'All Hail the King' One Shot made it clear that there is a real Ten Rings and a very real Mandarin. So they're out there and seem to be modelled along similar lines to DC's League of Assassins.
I could easily see them showing up in AoS or even Agent Carter assuming they've been around a while.
Maybe not working "for" them but they would have appreciated his efforts at chaos, the fear he induced in the public with those Ten Rings broadcasts and the "Mandarin's" lessons, would have served HYDRA well. They certainly may have aided him without his specific knowledge, and possibly acquired the Extremis after he was defeated.
I would love if they pick on that loose end. I hope they aren't just saving him for another Hulk movie.
The Leader might have a whole army of Gamma powered monsters by now.
I'm really hoping Skye's Blue Rangers, or Secret Avengers if you will, will be picking up some of the many second tier Avengers like Dane Whitman, Patsy Walker, Tigra, Dr. Druid, and Monica Rambeau. Firebird might be a good one to have. I would love to see them in something. Also, the Power Broker and the Unlimited Class Wrestling Federation would be a good opponent for a few episodes or an arc.
There's over 70 different Avengers and we've seen 9 or 10, so there's lots more out there, plus they can always make something completely new.
I'd also like some guest appearances that could be small or just one episode long, just so that you can see they are out there.
I know they've got their plan in place at Netflix but I think Moon Knight would be great for them with his 4 identities.
While I wouldn't be surprised that there may have been some overlap in certain aspects of Hydra, AIM and even the real Ten Rings (knowingly or otherwise), I think it would utterly undermine Killian's character arc to have him be just another Hydra stooge.
Things like making the Senator from IM2 Hydra was a cute tough, but too much of that kind of thing tends to shrink the world a little too much IMO.
One thing is for sure though: at some point Hydra clearly got their hands of AIM's work on Extremis. Whether that was through SHIELD confiscating things in the aftermath or straight from the source is uncertain. Personally I can see one of Hydra's legitimate fronts being among Killian's investors.
My take on that would be that Hydra found Obadiah amenable to their immediate goals after they knocked off Howard. I doubt he was ever consciously aware of Hydra's hand in his ascension as his personal greed and jealousy should be character motivation enough.
At best I'd say he would have been an unwitting tool....in more ways than one.
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