Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)
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Some of this episode was confusing, some of it was slow, and some of it was very good. Loved Mack standing up to Coulson the Sanctimonious.
Gemma's storyline is interesting but its too much of an extreme change for her. I don't buy it...she seemed like a completely unrecognizable character.
Gemma's storyline is interesting but its too much of an extreme change for her. I don't buy it...she seemed like a completely unrecognizable character.
I actually felt kind of sorry for Raina here. So I wonder if the end of her story here means she's going to be our introduction to the Inhumans rather than Skye/Daisy. I am curious to see exactly how deep into all of the Inhumans stuff they are going to get, since the movie isn't coming out for another 2 or 3 years.
I was glad to see them devote so much time to the aftermath of Tripp's death.
I'm surprised they are keeping Skye's powers a secret (for now at least), I was expecting everybody to know right away and the big goal to be figuring out what she was. Although judging by the preview for next week it looks like it won't be secret long.
I'm so glad they showed right away that Hunter freeing Bakshi was Coulson's plan, I was afraid that they were going to make us think he was a traitor.
So, I'm thinking the deaths of all these heads of Hydra was a set up for Strucker's role in AoU, and also clearing the board for the show to shift it's focus over to the Inhumans.
I was expecting Fitz to tell everybody else when he left, so I was really surprised when kept what happened a secret. I like how they had him almost kind of relating to her with the whole thing about being change. While his change wasn't as extraordinary, it was still a change, so he can kind of relate in a small way.
The end is making me think that Bobbi and Mack are working for Fury. They seemed to trying to make you think they were going to steal it, but I think they are actually trying to retrieve it for him.
I was glad to see them devote so much time to the aftermath of Tripp's death.
I'm surprised they are keeping Skye's powers a secret (for now at least), I was expecting everybody to know right away and the big goal to be figuring out what she was. Although judging by the preview for next week it looks like it won't be secret long.
I'm so glad they showed right away that Hunter freeing Bakshi was Coulson's plan, I was afraid that they were going to make us think he was a traitor.
So, I'm thinking the deaths of all these heads of Hydra was a set up for Strucker's role in AoU, and also clearing the board for the show to shift it's focus over to the Inhumans.
I was expecting Fitz to tell everybody else when he left, so I was really surprised when kept what happened a secret. I like how they had him almost kind of relating to her with the whole thing about being change. While his change wasn't as extraordinary, it was still a change, so he can kind of relate in a small way.
The end is making me think that Bobbi and Mack are working for Fury. They seemed to trying to make you think they were going to steal it, but I think they are actually trying to retrieve it for him.
They should start calling this Marvels Agents of Whine. Whah, I caused this. No, whah I caused this. No it's my fault, whah that's Trips dead.
Interesting. I thought it was Fitz who was acting out of character by making Skye feel like a complete freak when he found out she had transformed into something entirely different. It was bad enough Skye felt like crap for thinking she was responsible for Trip's death. "Your heart rate was 300 bpm. The whole tunnel collapsed, but you survived, which makes me think you were the one who caused the quake." Then he did a turnaround and declared Skye normal in front of Simmons and May.
They mentioned Strucker a few times in the episode. It sounded like all the heads answered to him.
I don't think it's Fury - he gave it to Coulson, he could just ask for it back. If they're working for anyone we already know, I think it's either Tony Stark or Maria Hill (who's working for Stark and knows Coulson is alive). Of those two, I'd lean towards Hill - she has the SHIELD connection, probably knows Bobbi, and might know that Fury gave something to Coulson. And Cobie Smulders is far more likely to return to the show than Robert Downey, Jr. is to guest star.
Wow, I can't believe how much I loved tonight's episode. Everything just seemed to click and flow perfectly, despite Simmons seeming so out of character. (I hope she didn't drink too much of the Hydra Koolaid while she was undercover.)
Great plan from Coulson. The truck crash/shootout was quite entertaining, and the end goal of just putting bullets in people's heads was shockingly logical.
But the star of the episode was Fitz. Wow, did he do a great job of saving the day at the end!
And that little teleportation save for Raina at the end was fantastic! I thought that part of the show was well directed bouncing between her and Skye.
Great plan from Coulson. The truck crash/shootout was quite entertaining, and the end goal of just putting bullets in people's heads was shockingly logical.
But the star of the episode was Fitz. Wow, did he do a great job of saving the day at the end!
And that little teleportation save for Raina at the end was fantastic! I thought that part of the show was well directed bouncing between her and Skye.
2019 actually. It doesn't come out for another 4 years and 4 months. Good luck to them for keeping the Inhumans story interesting for the next 4 years, while still saving a bunch of the good stuff for the movie.
I think that was just emotion talking. A friend of hers had just died, and several members of her team were butchered by Raina, both thanks to this mysterious alien tech. Then consider that she has been twitchy around alien tech ever since she caught the infection from the Chitauri helmet in season one. I think she'll see things more clearly once she has more info.
That said, I'm glad that Fitz lied about her test results.
In a lot of ways I feel as if Fitz is the biggest hero on the team. He went from, "I knew there would come a time when we would regret going into the field, I just didn't think it would happen in in week one", to telling Ward "I'm every bit the SHIELD agent you are", while in the field. My favorite is when the team was captured by Garrett and Fitz looks Garrett in the eye through tears and says, "You're going to suffer for what you've done, and I plan on being a very big part of that."
He would have jumped out of the plane to save Jemma. He took up arms against HYDRA despite being completely out of his depth. And, of course, his sacrifice to save Simmons in the finale.
The bravery he's shown in the second season has been of a different sort, but it's always there.
1. Seeing as a future episode's been titled "Love in the Time of HYDRA", I doubt that we're done with that group just yet.
2. Looks like I got a partial answer to "where's HYDRA getting their financing? Stealing from old SHIELD and whoever else they've been able to rip off from the inside surely wasn't enough by itself."
2. Looks like I got a partial answer to "where's HYDRA getting their financing? Stealing from old SHIELD and whoever else they've been able to rip off from the inside surely wasn't enough by itself."
Cut off the head...
Yeah I think it's clear that SHIELD was only ever meant to be a vector for Hydra, while the actual host it infected was the rest of the world. Seventy odd years is plenty of time to make deep inroads into global politics, commerce and industry. By this point I wouldn't be surprised if more than a few third world countries are effectively (and unknowingly) under Hydra control.
I'm wondering if AoS will ever touch on any other players out there like The Ten Rings, AIM (if anything's left of it) and maybe even Leviathan and Zodiac are still around.
I'm wondering if AoS will ever touch on any other players out there like The Ten Rings, AIM (if anything's left of it) and maybe even Leviathan and Zodiac are still around.
As usual I wonder if the opposite is possible.
Imagine that Hydra is the worlds training wheels.
What's going to happen now that the training wheels are...
I used to live with an incomplete family who didn't have a father, but one weekend when dad was visiting, he asked his 4 year old son if he was a wuss? Then took the training wheels off the kid's bike. A week later when he returned, the mother had had me put the training wheels back on because their kid was young and scared, but the dad took them off again.
Quite a few angry phone calls later, he wasn't allowed back unsupervised, so he didn't come back, because how dare she tell him how to act around his son.
(This is them sober. They were both also drunks.)
Without Hydra as both training wheels and a safety net, bad things will happen without millions of Hydra agents running around in the background making sure that bad ideas die in their crib, even if every country in the world is wondering why there is now suddenly a mysterious 9 billion dollar surplus to their gdp they were not expecting.
Imagine that Hydra is the worlds training wheels.
What's going to happen now that the training wheels are...
I used to live with an incomplete family who didn't have a father, but one weekend when dad was visiting, he asked his 4 year old son if he was a wuss? Then took the training wheels off the kid's bike. A week later when he returned, the mother had had me put the training wheels back on because their kid was young and scared, but the dad took them off again.
Quite a few angry phone calls later, he wasn't allowed back unsupervised, so he didn't come back, because how dare she tell him how to act around his son.
(This is them sober. They were both also drunks.)
Without Hydra as both training wheels and a safety net, bad things will happen without millions of Hydra agents running around in the background making sure that bad ideas die in their crib, even if every country in the world is wondering why there is now suddenly a mysterious 9 billion dollar surplus to their gdp they were not expecting.
I do hope that next season (also hoping for a next season) they go with AIM. I think there's plenty of room for it drawing from the spirit of Iron Man 3 while also going closer to the comic roots. It would be even better if they could get a two minute flashback cameo featuring Guy Pearce (a la Toby Jones). I know it's not likely, but it would definitely help sell things.
My idea is essentially having it start as a government financed think tank prioritizing research. Although Killian is a crucial player, it's evolved beyond that point to achieving scientific advancement in all fields whatever the cost. That, and yellow bee keeper suits
My idea is essentially having it start as a government financed think tank prioritizing research. Although Killian is a crucial player, it's evolved beyond that point to achieving scientific advancement in all fields whatever the cost. That, and yellow bee keeper suits
^ And MODOK!
Sonic?
I think the stress of seeing mutated Raina killing her team could just make someone act a little differently.
I think he was proving it to himself, making her react to be sure but then not wanting anyone to put her down as a threat.
Sonic?
I think the stress of seeing mutated Raina killing her team could just make someone act a little differently.
I think he was proving it to himself, making her react to be sure but then not wanting anyone to put her down as a threat.
Guy who played on Hunter was killed by a character named Hunter.
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