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Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

Maybe Bennet will cut her hair over the holiday at least.

She doesn't need to look exactly like Quake. What a great series of episodes--this show is definitely on fire!

I love the fact that they have introduced a number of comic book concepts and characters without ever actually naming them. It throws a bone for those in the know without excluding the casual viewer.
 
Wait, earlier Marvel announced an upcoming S.H.I.E.L.D. comic series featuring Earth-616 adaptations of Coulson's team members on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Didn't the tentative artwork of issue 1 show Skye? How is that supposed to work if MCU Skye is a version of Daisy Quake?
 
Ok, this is the show everyone hoped for when it premiered last year. They have taken up a notch, have you truly invested in the characters.

I was so happy when Sky shot Ward, simply from TV show logic. How many times have you watched shows like AoS and in similar situation the shot is never taken. I was yelling at the TV shoot him and then she did, I was actually astonished that she did it. Of course it was not life threatening because of perfectly placed Screenplay armor.

Could Ward now become Taskmaster and Agent 33/Reverse May become Madame Masque or even Domino.

I was sad to see Trip go but I'm glad we got to keep Mack. Mack & Fitz relationship was one of the best things for me. At the end of last season, I was hoping that Fitz was gone and now I want Mack and Fitz to live together in platonic happiness.
 
But why? I mean, seriously, what reason is there to think he wouldn't have been given a trial? It's not like the existence of Hydra during WW2 was a secret -- Cap's fight against Hydra is so much a part of public knowledge that it's part of a Smithsonian museum exhibit.
Uh, yeah, 70 years later, and after the existence of aliens has become very public knowledge. We also now know pretty much all there is to know about Bletchley Park, but even though the Enigma threat ended with the fall of Berlin, that project stayed classified for decades. Maybe Reinhardt got some sort of secret trial, but it's not hard to see the upsides of not having a public discussion of a guy who may have extensive knowledge of all kinds of occult stuff. Or you can take it as an instance of SHIELD being corrupt from its very inception, thus necessitating Cap/Widow's secrets leak, and a kindler, gentler Director in Coulson.


Trip has been Wash'd... :(
Yeah, except Tripp was likeable. :devil:
 
But why? I mean, seriously, what reason is there to think he wouldn't have been given a trial? It's not like the existence of Hydra during WW2 was a secret -- Cap's fight against Hydra is so much a part of public knowledge that it's part of a Smithsonian museum exhibit.
Uh, yeah, 70 years later...
Well, except for all those propaganda shorts and promos we saw produced during the war, Hydra included.
 
But why? I mean, seriously, what reason is there to think he wouldn't have been given a trial? It's not like the existence of Hydra during WW2 was a secret -- Cap's fight against Hydra is so much a part of public knowledge that it's part of a Smithsonian museum exhibit.
Uh, yeah, 70 years later...
Well, except for all those propaganda shorts and promos we saw produced during the war, Hydra included.

This.

I see no reason why the Allies would have wanted or needed to keep Hydra a secret, nor why they would not have wanted a full airing of Reinhardt's crimes. I mean, is it really a threat to national security to say that he went around mutilating innocent people while looking for something that would give him superpowers?
 
Okay, a lot happened in this one. I was really pissed about Tripp. There was no need of that. He was a great character and a connection to the Howling Commandos. At least Mack is okay.

I never read Daredevil much, so I'm not that familiar with Hyde and I've never heard of Quake. But this development is kind of disappointing to me, not just because these are Z-grade characters, but because Skye was originally brought in as someone with an almost superhuman intuition with data and computers-- her transformation should have been related to that, not just some generic superpower.

So now Ward and Evil May are a team-- interesting, but if Skye was okay with shooting him, why didn't she make sure he was dead?

And it looks like there are more artifacts and the guy with no eyes was alerted that there is "a new one." If this is about the Inhumans, I wonder if he is supposed to be Karnak. But it would be strange for them to introduce one of the Royal Family on SHIELD several years before the movie comes out.
 
^ While Tripp's death may have not ultimately mattered in the scene (I would still argue he died thinking he was acting to save his friend), I think it matters for the plot. I get the impression Skye will feel responsibility over his death in a way that will inspire her to be more (sort of like a death of Uncle Ben type thing).

Wait, earlier Marvel announced an upcoming S.H.I.E.L.D. comic series featuring Earth-616 adaptations of Coulson's team members on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Didn't the tentative artwork of issue 1 show Skye? How is that supposed to work if MCU Skye is a version of Daisy Quake?

I would say there's no contradiction. The MCU Skye is Daisy Quake. No reason the 616 Skye is. Afterall, the MCU Sitwell works for Hydra (and is dead) but the 616 Sitwell does not.
 
I'm not buying the Trip is dead thing. The cast was tweeting a little too much about the Trip's death; and wasn't there a rumor where B.J. Britt had a scene in Age of Ultron?
 
So now Ward and Evil May are a team-- interesting, but if Skye was okay with shooting him, why didn't she make sure he was dead?

I don't think Skye is willing to kill except in immediate self-defense or the defense of others. She shot Ward knowing he'd survive, but be incapacitated and unable to overpower her. That was her only goal.

Wait, earlier Marvel announced an upcoming S.H.I.E.L.D. comic series featuring Earth-616 adaptations of Coulson's team members on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Didn't the tentative artwork of issue 1 show Skye? How is that supposed to work if MCU Skye is a version of Daisy Quake?

I would say there's no contradiction. The MCU Skye is Daisy Quake. No reason the 616 Skye is. Afterall, the MCU Sitwell works for Hydra (and is dead) but the 616 Sitwell does not.

I mean, there's no contradiction per se, except that it means that 616-Skye is a fundamentally separate character from MCU-Skye, rather than being two variations on the same character.

Mind you, from reading the Daisy Johnson entry on the Marvel Wiki, 616-Daisy seems like she's different enough from MCU-Skye that MCU-Skye might as well be an original character inspired by 616-Daisy.
 
Sci said:
I see no reason why the Allies would have wanted or needed to keep Hydra a secret, nor why they would not have wanted a full airing of Reinhardt's crimes. I mean, is it really a threat to national security to say that he went around mutilating innocent people while looking for something that would give him superpowers?
The threat isn't the fact that he was looking for superpowers - the threat would be in revealing how close he came to finding some.

Ever hear of a guy named John Sutter? He operated a mill in California in the 1840s. When a worker came to him with gold flecks found in the river, he was terrified, and for good reason - the ensuing Gold Rush overran his business, wiping out his investment in the same, and he eventually died a poor man, a failure, despite having had a personal hand in one of history's greatest discoveries of wealth.

The Allies are John Sutter here - the longer they can keep the occult discredited, the less likely they are to have to deal with all sorts of enemy and rogue powers coming at them with magical weapons. If that means sweeping a few HYDRA types into a cellar without a trial...
 
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I'm not buying the Trip is dead thing. The cast was tweeting a little too much about the Trip's death; and wasn't there a rumor where B.J. Britt had a scene in Age of Ultron?

I remember that but they never specified if it was him doing stuff or if they were just going to show a picture of him in a list of fallen Shield agents.
 
We just caught up on the last couple. I was so pissed and knew it would come back to bite them in the ass when Agent 33/ Evil May wasn't eliminated as she lie unconscious on the floor. To say I was mad is an understatement. That was a ridiculous rookie mistake made just to move the plot along. Didn't like it one bit.
 
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