Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

[JD]

The episode with Hartley is also the first episode with EJO, and according to the guest cast list will also feature another appearance by Gordon, the eyeless teleporting Inhuman. No Raina though, which kind of surprises me given Gordon's last appearance. Although that is still a couple weeks away and a lot can change in that time on these kinds of shows.

 

[RJDiogenes]

By all accounts Kree culture is pretty harsh by our standards, so perhaps from his perspective, he was being very merciful. He may see putting down an Inhuman the same way we might see putting down a rabid dog. It's dangerous and incurable and a quick death is the simplest solution.

Exactly. From his point of view, he was on our side. He grabbed the truncheon from Coulson and restored Sif's memory and then backed off. He didn't understand why we didn't want to just end the threat. That's an interesting conflict that I'd like to see developed.

Unless she really returns, which would open up the door for Trip's return.

I wouldn't go that far, IIRC cutting Hartley's arm off did appear to work and it was the car crash that killed her, not the diviner. Pretty sure we saw a body that wasn't turned to stone, unlike Trip who was smashed into a million pieces.

Not saying it can't happen, just that the one doesn't necessarily follow the other because the circumstances were slightly different.

No, but that's one thing they have in common. I'm sure having Trip back is wishful thinking, though...

 

[Reverend]

Unless she really returns, which would open up the door for Trip's return.

I wouldn't go that far, IIRC cutting Hartley's arm off did appear to work and it was the car crash that killed her, not the diviner. Pretty sure we saw a body that wasn't turned to stone, unlike Trip who was smashed into a million pieces.

Not saying it can't happen, just that the one doesn't necessarily follow the other because the circumstances were slightly different.

No, but that's one thing they have in common. I'm sure having Trip back is wishful thinking, though...

What they have in common is that they're both dead SHIELD agents and we already have a precedent for one of *those* coming back to life.

 

[RJDiogenes]

True, and it was using technology derived from the Kree. And here we have Trip reduced to dust by the crystal and what did they do? They added water. Instant Trip! Maybe he'll come back as Triton.

 

[Reverend]

True, and it was using technology derived from the Kree. And here we have Trip reduced to dust by the crystal and what did they do? They added water. Instant Trip! Maybe he'll come back as Triton.

Not quite. Coulson was brought back with the assistance of something specific, derived from Kree biology (not technology) but killed by the glowstick of destiny (probably not Kree tech.) Trip was killed when a diviner exploded and lodged a piece of shrapnel in his chest.

It's like saying a person can be brought back to life after being electrocuted and burnt to a crisp on a mains powerline because a thing called a defibrillator also exists. or more aptly like saying a person killed by a hand grenade can be brought back because someone else got a kidney transplant. There's very little correlation there.

 

[Forbin]

Well, to be fair, how much correlation does a comic story need for something to work?

 

[Marsden]

True, and it was using technology derived from the Kree. And here we have Trip reduced to dust by the crystal and what did they do? They added water. Instant Trip! Maybe he'll come back as Triton.

Yes, I believe that's how they invented SHIELD Agent in a can ®

Coming to store shelves in secret bunkers near you!

 

[The Old Mixer]

Culver...TIH shout-out.

 

[DEWLine]

Yep.

Also...Manitowoc?

If it had been Oshkosh, I'd have sworn it was a nod to Mark Gruenwald...

 

[The Old Mixer]

A Google search revealed that the Great Lakes Avengers were based in Milwaukee...not exactly a match.

So...is that logo that they revealed for "The Real SHIELD" supposed to mean anything?

Was hoping to see EJO...maybe in the last scene.

ETA: OK, we got him in the teaser.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Culver...TIH shout-out.

There was also a blink and you miss it shout-out to TIH's Culver University in Thor.


http://marvelcinematicuniverse.wikia.com/wiki/File:Culverfoster.jpg

 

[Neroon]

So...is that logo that they revealed for "The Real SHIELD" supposed to mean anything?

That reveal clearly meant to show us something significant, but I wasn't sure just what. Was this significant because this represented a "new S.H.I.E.L.D." or was that emblem a reference to something in the comics?

 

[The Old Mixer]

That's what I was wondering...there's all this talk of more recent related agencies like SWORD and STRIKE that I'm not familiar with...I was wondering if the logo was supposed to be a reveal of something like that.

If so, those of us who are in the dark could really use a squeee-er.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Nicholas gave Coulson S.H.I.E.L.D..

Nicholas had superiors who probably thought that they controlled S.H.I.E.L.D. and thought that Nicholas was mildly presumptuous to think that he had any rights whatsoever to give away THEIR S.H.I.E.L.D..

Nicholas' superiors were COUNTRIES.

(The representatives on the World Security Council were reporting back to the Governments of countries, and parroting/forwarding the orders of countries that are representing the whims of billions of voting citizens, oh, and Russia & China were on the council too just doing what ever they felt like.)

The design is also no longer a circle but a(n upside down) bullet shape.

 

[sojourner]

The design is also no longer a circle but a(n upside down) bullet shape.

So, it was shaped like a...... Shield?

 

[Gryffindorian]

Well, that was interesting. At least they're not working for Hydra. Good to see Drea De Matteo again. The guy with the sonic power was a nod to Thunderbolt?

 

[Turtletrekker]

The guy with the sonic power was a nod to Thunderbolt?

Nope. Angar the Screamer.

 

[Guy Gardener]

The design is also no longer a circle but a(n upside down) bullet shape.

So, it was shaped like a...... Shield?

My god! You're right!

 

[CorporalClegg]

Next week on Filmation's Shield...

 

[RJDiogenes]

True, and it was using technology derived from the Kree. And here we have Trip reduced to dust by the crystal and what did they do? They added water. Instant Trip! Maybe he'll come back as Triton.

Not quite. Coulson was brought back with the assistance of something specific, derived from Kree biology (not technology) but killed by the glowstick of destiny (probably not Kree tech.) Trip was killed when a diviner exploded and lodged a piece of shrapnel in his chest.

It's like saying a person can be brought back to life after being electrocuted and burnt to a crisp on a mains powerline because a thing called a defibrillator also exists. or more aptly like saying a person killed by a hand grenade can be brought back because someone else got a kidney transplant. There's very little correlation there.

Well, putting facetiousness aside, we're talking about Pulp science, not the real world. Both of your examples have happened in fiction. Given the nature of Trip's death, I could easily come up with a dozen ways to bring him back. It's not going to happen, but it could (and we still don't know how or if they're bringing Xena back).