Agents of SHIELD - Season 2 Discussion Threads. (Spoilers Likely)

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  1. Turtletrekker

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    My first thought was that it sounded like an Autobot name.
     
  2. Guy Gardener

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    Sorta, it's Buster/Spike's dad William Witwicky's name from Transformers.
     
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  3. Mr Light

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    <<Probably because Spark Plug spelt backwards is "Gulp Kraps". >>

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  4. Reverend

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    My first thought was that it sounded like a name Mac would come up with. I wonder if that'll be something he does now? I mean you can't have agents picking their own code names. There'd be squabbles. ;)
     
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    Spark Plug was Barney Google's horse. :rommie:

    Of course, nobody but Coulson will know that.
     
  6. Christopher

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    It has, though only by a rather obscure character:

    http://www.comicvine.com/sparkplug/4005-29640/


    I find it interesting that he's actually getting a code name in the show. AoS has pretty much avoided code names up to now, other than Deathlok. Does this mean we'll actually hear Daisy referred to as Quake -- or Bobbi as Mockingbird?
     
  7. Marsden

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    I want Coulson's name to be The Revenant.
     
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    Cool trailer. It's weird hearing Daisy call herself by that.
    Daisy's team is Secret Warriors, maybe they are going to take the secret part literally, and they are all going to use code names while they're out in the field. Although I guess the fact that Daisy does tell the new guy her name makes that seem a little bit unlikely.
     
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    "Spark plug" sounds very sidekickish.
     
  11. RJDiogenes

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    Everybody will call him "Sparky." :rommie:
     
  12. Christopher

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    Except that looks like an Inhuman she's trying to recruit.

    Really, it seems pretty normal for a military, intelligence, or similar team to use code names/call signs in the field, for comm chatter if nothing else. You see that in a lot of shows and movies with nothing to do with superheroes, so it seems self-conscious for superhero films and shows to avoid the nicknames as aggressively as they often do. Heck, Alias's secret-agent characters used call signs all the time (e.g. Sydney was Freelancer, Mountaineer, Phoenix, etc.), and Jeffrey Bell was a staffer on that show as well as on AoS. And these guys are secret agents too. So I'm surprised they haven't been using code names all along.
     
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    But actual military or intelligence types tend to change codenames regularly. If you don't do that, which Superhero stories pretty much cannot do without upsetting the fans, there's not much point left to having them in the first place (from a realism standpoint, of course).
     
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    Henry ####ing Pym.
     
  15. John Clark

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    Thanks for this as I'd been keeping an eye on Bear's blog but missed this.

    It doesn't seem to be listed on the UK Amazon site but is on Itunes. There are 18 tracks listed there.

    1. Agents of Shield Overture
    2. Showdown at Union Station
    3. 0-8-4
    4. Rocket Launch
    5. The Obelisk
    6. Aftermath of the uprising
    7. Gravitonium
    8. Cal
    9. Cello Concerto
    10. Willing to sacrifice
    11. Alien DNA
    12. Fzzt
    13. Garrett
    14. Hail Hydra
    15 Helicopter Rescue
    16. Terrigen Crystals
    17. The Big Bang
    18. The Rising Tide

    I don't know if the cd will have the same track listing though. The itunes version has a running time of about 1hr 18.
     
  16. Star Wolf

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    I used to joke about Burnett and Cooper keeping their undercover identities for years on end, but then they never went to court as the bad guys always shot it out in the end.
    Still you would think any "player" in Miami would know if those two came around they had better update their last will.
     
  17. The Old Mixer

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    Not necessarily....It's my understanding that fighter pilot call signs are long-term. And the Secret Service codenames for a president and his family also tend to be long-term and are publicly known.
     
  18. Star Wolf

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    The pilot's name isn't for operational security but rather a team bonding tradition. So if Maverick were actually to shoot down a Mig 28 or get shot down we would quickly learn he is Lt Mitchell. As for the President's code name. That you know it suggest it is also public relations so like "Desert Shield" it doesn't add anymore secrecy then saying protect Saudi Arabia from Iraq war plan. And that plan would have a secret name while the press gets Desert Shield.

    In the Secret Warriors case after the Battle of New York the people know this enhanced human stuff is possible so unlike hearing Maverick is Mitchell the code names might be used to shield Agent Jonson's true identity. But in an operation she could become Agent 43 in the radio callsign. like Kara, Madame Masque/Agent 33
     
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    But not all military codenames are for operational security and therefore changed regularly...that was my point.
     
  20. Reverend

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    A more apt comparison would be codenames for intelligence operatives, rather than military personnel. Honestly, I'm not sure how that works, but I do recall reading about certain cold war era assets and double agents who were known about for years by one side or the other, but only by a code name they could never connect to a real person (or eventually did, but much later down the line.)

    Of course assets and agents aren't always the same thing and it'd seem like a bad idea for a field agent to retain a codename for operational security, as it'd allow the other side to track deployment patterns through intercepts.

    On the other hand, an internal codename need not be the same as an operational one, where the latter might change from one operation to the next, the other is retained for internal use only and serves to re-enforce compartmentalisation.

    Not sure how that would apply to the MCU as everyone in SHIELD (at level 7 anyway) seemed to know Romanov as Romanov and not just as Black Widow. I think it's safe to say they haven't put a massive amount of thought into it.