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Agent Carter - Season 2

I'm very sad to hear it's over, I really enjoyed both seasons. I would love to see more of Peggy, the Jarvises, and Sousa in AoS flashbacks.
 
Agreed. I actually do own season one, but I'm not gonna buy a season that ends in an unresolved cliff-hanger.

Except it doesn't. It resolves all of its own major plotlines; it just has one cliffhanger element to set up a next season. And it doesn't really have to be seen as a cliffhanger.
Jack's murder can just be seen as a tragic coda, a retaliation for his betrayal of the Council. A lot of standalone movies or books end with that kind of a tragic beat -- the heroes succeed, but at a cost. The story of Whitney Frost and Zero Matter is over, but we know that Peggy still has enemies and there's still evil to fight.
I think that works well enough as an ending. Not perfectly, but well enough that it's hardly sufficient reason to deprive yourself of owning it.
 
I'm curious what AoS will do, will they make more episodes or will there just be a gap like first season?
They won't do more episodes because they have a full order, but the question is whether they'll have a large gap or if they'll mix in breaks throughout.
 
People seem confused about what a cliffhanger ending is. Cliffhangers as the name suggests leaves the resolution of an ongoing plot hanging in the balance. Season 2 didn't end on a cliffhanger, it ended on a twist epilogue.
 
Except it doesn't. It resolves all of its own major plotlines; it just has one cliffhanger element to set up a next season. And it doesn't really have to be seen as a cliffhanger.
Jack's murder can just be seen as a tragic coda, a retaliation for his betrayal of the Council. A lot of standalone movies or books end with that kind of a tragic beat -- the heroes succeed, but at a cost. The story of Whitney Frost and Zero Matter is over, but we know that Peggy still has enemies and there's still evil to fight.
I think that works well enough as an ending. Not perfectly, but well enough that it's hardly sufficient reason to deprive yourself of owning it.
But there are still the unresolved threads of the Council itself and Dottie Underwood being in the wind. YMMV, but those are deal-breakers to me.
 
Most likely it was accurate right up until the "you know what's about to happen" line. That line itself is somewhat meaningless unless everything prior to that didn't play out as it did in reality. Or at least the version of reality that is Tony's memory.

But what about the setting? In the comic it's the pool but in the movie it's the living room. And in the movie, it seems to be around Christmas, not really pool weather, particularly in New York.

TV giveth and TV taketh away.

It's been a rough year for me. I lost Agent Carter, Community, Downton Abbey, & Lost Girl. And then Doctor Who went into a 1-year hiatus. If it weren't for the perennial Saturday Night Live and the new upcoming seasons of Red Dwarf, I'd have nothing left. :sigh::weep:

Here's hoping we at least get SOME future Agent Carter, either in the form of Netflix, a direct-to-video movie, or guest appearances on Agents of SHIELD.

I know it won't happen, but I'm still hoping for a Marvel Team Up/Marvel Two-in-One type show where it features a different MCU character every episode.

I don't know what kind of time travel shenanigans would be required to make it happen, but I would love to see a team up between Agent Carter & Black Widow!
 
But what about the setting? In the comic it's the pool but in the movie it's the living room. And in the movie, it seems to be around Christmas, not really pool weather, particularly in New York.

So ignore the comic? This isn't rocket science.

I don't know what kind of time travel shenanigans would be required to make it happen, but I would love to see a team up between Agent Carter & Black Widow!

Well the time gem is set to crop up sooner or later...
 
But there are still the unresolved threads of the Council itself and Dottie Underwood being in the wind. YMMV, but those are deal-breakers to me.

Well, of course the Council was going to be unresolved. It symbolized the rich white patriarchy that controlled all the institutions of society in 1947, and hey, news flash, the rich white patriarchy still controls much of society today. So it's a given that they weren't going anywhere. You could take down the individual members, but the institution would remain in place.

And lots of series end with "The adventure continues" rather than "Everyone dies/retires." Sometimes the best way to end a story is with the promise that the heroes will go on fighting the good fight. So Dottie being out there doesn't bother me. Heck, we know from the rest of the MCU that Peggy's career will continue for decades. Regardless of how long the show lasted, it would never have offered any real closure on her career. So an ending that says "The adventure continues" -- and that Peggy's nemesis is still out there waiting to match wits with her again -- seems pretty much perfect to me.


But what about the setting? In the comic it's the pool but in the movie it's the living room. And in the movie, it seems to be around Christmas, not really pool weather, particularly in New York.

In the movie, it's a simulation of the way Tony wished it had happened. He could've changed the setting as well as the outcome.


It's been a rough year for me. I lost Agent Carter, Community, Downton Abbey, & Lost Girl.

If you ask me, we lost Lost Girl a couple of years ago. It's been a shadow of its former self and I'm glad it was finally put out of its misery.
 
Well, of course the Council was going to be unresolved. It symbolized the rich white patriarchy that controlled all the institutions of society in 1947, and hey, news flash, the rich white patriarchy still controls much of society today. So it's a given that they weren't going anywhere.
In a general thematic sense, of course. But more specifically, I think it's quite obvious in context of also watching this season of Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D. that they are part of the American branch of Hydra whose story is continued there.
 
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^ Unfortunately, soon after the events of S2, Sousa fell into a deep coma that paused his aging. He was cured in the early 2000s, and became an NYC cop. :p
 
If you ask me, we lost Lost Girl a couple of years ago. It's been a shadow of its former self and I'm glad it was finally put out of its misery.

You may have a point. Season 3 was probably the last good season. Season 4 was a massive clusterfuck but at least it still had a few good episodes, mostly the ones focusing on Kenzi. Unfortunately, Kenzi left in early Season 5. And while I've only seen the first half of Season 5, it seems like all of the episodes equal the quality of the 4th season finale (i.e. lame & incomprehensible). It may be the worst single season of TV that I've ever seen, and I sat through the entire 5th season of Earth: Final Conflict! :eek: But losing a show still hurts, particularly since I've always been an incurable optimist that it could get better. On the plus side, I get to meet Kenzi at Phoenix Comicon next month! :D

"Mission Report: December 16, 1991."

Doesn't work if you don't say the words first. ;)

^ Unfortunately, soon after the events of S2, Sousa fell into a deep coma that paused his aging. He was cured in the early 2000s, and became an NYC cop. :p

Oh. I thought that was just another one of Victor's personalities from Dollhouse. :p

BTW, TV.com did an article where their writers all discuss which cancellations this year hurt the most. Nearly all of them mention Agent Carter. :(
http://www.tv.com/news/worst-cancellations-2016-146324468471/
 
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You may have a point. Season 3 was probably the last good season. Season 4 was a massive clusterfuck but at least it still had a few good episodes, mostly the ones focusing on Kenzi. Unfortunately, Kenzi left in early Season 5. And while I've only seen the first half of Season 5, it seems like all of the episodes equal the quality of the 4th season finale (i.e. lame & incomprehensible). It may be the worst single season of TV that I've ever seen, and I sat through the entire 5th season of Earth: Final Conflict! :eek: But losing a show still hurts, particularly since I've always been an incurable optimist that it could get better. On the plus side, I get to meet Kenzi at Phoenix Comicon next month! :D

I agree about Lost Girl season 4, but season 5 actually wasn't nearly as bad. It wasn't good, but it was nowhere near as incoherent as season 4.
 
I agree about Lost Girl season 4, but season 5 actually wasn't nearly as bad. It wasn't good, but it was nowhere near as incoherent as season 4.

Does it get better in the 2nd half of Season 5? Because I thought the 1st half was pretty dire. Most of the episodes felt cheap & poorly thought out. Tamsin got kind of annoying with her neediness towards Bo. And Dyson's son was just a total black hole, sucking all charm & charisma out of all of his scenes. Although, admittedly, he's not quite as boring or as poorly acted as Rainer.
 
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