Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Out Of My Vulcan Mind, Apr 21, 2011.
My post was fin reply to the previous comment.
I thought the whole impetus for the Wildlings gathering together and marching was that the Others were making inroads into their communities. They wanted the horn of Joruman (or at least for Jon to think it had power or was to be desired) to get past the Wall and make it to safety. Did the books not mention that Mance had patrols along the march that were to harry the straglers and move people along? I assumed that was because just like in the flight from the fist, those at the far flung sides or rear were easy pickings.
Once Tormund makes it through the Wall, he said that one of his sons died in the night and came back as a Wight. No one realized he was dead until he raised up and Tormund had to "kill" him. I don't recall Tormund mentioning an Other attack in conjuction with that incident. (Tormund and his band had fled the Wall in the wake of Stannis' attack.)
Mel reveals the Wall is powerful. Could perhaps the spells within the Wall have protected the Wildlings while they were assualting it? Dead stored within the ice vaults don't become Wights.
Is it then safe to assume that anyone that dies beyond the Wall now and is not burned immediately will rise?
I still think Cotter Pyke's message from Hardhome is so chilling. Dead things in the Water.
Perhaps they have not moved yet because they are waiting for the dead and dying to swell their ranks?
I don't think the Wights decompose. Sam pointed out that the flesh was ropey and that there was no corruption.
Kit Harrington talks S3:
Westeros.org's third sample from the map book has been posted. It's a section of Essos that hasn't been seen or hinted at previously, the coastal areas to the north of the Dothraki Sea. There's some speculation about what the new locations might be in this thread.
I am not sure if I will be purchasing or not. I may wait until other fans have copies in hand and see what they say.
The maps on my Kindle version of Dance were very faint and frustrating.
Two more sets of map snippets, from io9 and Tor.com; the io9 ones include the first hint of Asshai's specific location. I really like the tiny castle drawings on the Westeros map; I may want to buy this set sooner rather than later.
Westeros.org discussion of their third snippet has suggested that the "Kingdoms of the Ifeqevron" may translate from Dothraki as the land of "those who walk" (like White Walkers?) or "the others" (Others?).
New Teaser Poster is out.
more at winteriscoming.net
GQ Names Blackwater best episode on TV for the year 2011-2012:
Really good interview.
A couple of highlights:
So, wildlings at the wall at the end of season four.
First look at season 3, including a glimpse of Ciaran Hinds as Mance.
March is so far away.......
at the end it looked like Brienne and Jamie fighting on a bridge!
I did not recognize the banner being flown by the group on horses near the end. It looked kind of like a red stump on a yellow field. Guesses?
I think it's the flayed man of House Bolton.
Yeah, looks like they lost the pink. Looks more like a flaming man though with the red and beige/yellow.
There is a new 2012 "Yearender" video from HBO which includes a couple of brief bits of new footage for GoT.
^that was also in the link I posted to.
Thanks for the input! I did not think of House Bolton. I guess the pink is so ingrained in my mind that it did not even occur to me.
I hear there is a new ASOIAF App for iPhones that has some interesting bio bits. Has anyone checked that out?
Yeah they've really toned back the Bolton pink in the show for some reason. You can actually see a faint embossing of the "flayed man" on Bolton's leather jerkin in some scenes in previous seasons, which IIIRC should have also been in the bright pink with the blood droplets.
You can see a good image of the show's version of the House Bolton sigil here.
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