A Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones Spoiler-Filled Discussion

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by Out Of My Vulcan Mind, Apr 21, 2011.

  1. Captaindemotion

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    I haven't read the link but I can pretty much guess where this is going and if I'm right, such a storyline will alienate a lot of people.
     
  2. flavaflav

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    I haven't read the link. Over the last couple weeks I've started to get the feeling...

    Stannis is getting burned alive via Melisandre or Ramsay. If so, he really does have it coming to him
     
  3. Rowan Sjet

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    The episode got leaked early on HBO demand or something, and there are clips.

    And I'm also done with the show. Not even gonna stick around to the end of this season, which was when I was debating jumping ship. I'm completely doneso.
     
  4. InklingStar

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    I haven't read the links, but I have the bad feeling that

    Stannis is going to burn his beloved daughter.
     
  5. Hugo Rune

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    I have not read the link either, however my current take...

    Stannis' wife, so subservient to Rh'ollor and Melisandre, that she gives her daughter to the fire. They have constantly played up since her introduction that Selyse has no real love for her daughter and is willing to sacrifice anything for her god. Stannis meanwhile. though hard and without compassion, has shown he has a line and love somewhere in his heart. So, though I am not fond of the idea of Shireen dying at all, given she is a ray of warm in an ever darkening world, if she dies at the hands of her mother, then it will have been foreshadowed. If killed by her father, then, yeah... that just doesn't track with what the show has aired so far IMO

    Hugo - the night is full of terrors...
     
  6. sidious618

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    It's pretty much 100%. Clips were posted. It's not good.
     
  7. Klaus

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    Yep.

    D&D apparently say that it was GRRM's idea. But if it happens in the books, it seems like it would be Melisandre and Selyse doing it without his knowledge.
     
  9. Klaus

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    ^^It kind of has to happen in the books or people will burn them too lol.
     
  10. Venardhi

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    Stannis's whole storyline seems to have turned into what Benioff and Weiss need him to do for whatever story they're going to make up for him, rather than what he would have actually done in the situation.

    And suddenly Ramsay has magical fire powers? I didn't see arrows or alchemy or anything, just sudden flames.
     
  11. sidious618

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    Stannis held Storm's End for a year. A couple tents burn, though? Better sacrifice my daughter!

    Idiotic.

    I have no doubt Shireen will burn in the books, but it won't be because of Stannis.
     
  12. Yoda

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    Surely Davos is gonna have to turn on Stannis for this one. I do appreciate how the show is at least moving things along. Next season should be pretty interesting.
     
  13. Emh

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    A truly graphic and painful scene to watch, even worse than Sansa's rape, despite both being off-screen.

    On a different note, a thought came to mind after watching the episode in regards to Arya's storyline. It's been long theorized that Jaqen H'ghar is in fact Syrio Forel (it's been awhile since I've read A Game of Thrones, so I don't recall if Syrio was confirmed to be dead or just assumed to be dead by Arya). Considering the new direction in storyline for Arya in regards to Meryn Trant (am I the only one disappointed that she probably won't go through the blindness arc?), I wonder if Arya succeeds in killing Trant, only to earn Jaqen's wrath and tells her (after changing into Syrio) he didn't need vengeance?

    Or am I completely reaching?
     
  14. InklingStar

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    I never believed that Syrio could have survived, books or show. The Hound explained it clearly last season. Syrio was outnumbered, with a wooden sword, and Meryn Trant was armored and had a big steel sword. There was no reason for Trant to spare him, and as Syrio says, the First Sword of Braavos does not run. He dead.
     
  15. Brolan

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    Now that we have seen Jon's fate on the show, what are the chances he stays dead? There aren't any other viewpoint characters on the Wall, is that storyline dead as well? Or does Jon get revived by Melisandre or Bran somehow?
     
  16. Tom Hendricks

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    Good thing Melisandre fled Winterfell and arrived back at the wall just in time for this.
     
  17. Brolan

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    Makes you wonder if she was expecting a great leader to be betrayed and killed by his men. And when she saw Stannis was still alive she realized she made a horrible mistake.
     
  18. Tyberius

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  19. Emh

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    Well, I was completely wrong about Syrio (which is no surprise), but at least he got a name check. And it's good to see I was also wrong about Arya's blindness, even if the order of her storyline is messed up.
     
  20. SiddFinch1

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    I doubt Jon stays dead..of course I have been wrong numerous times befire:techman: