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A Roseanne revival? Really??

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Apparently people are complaining about that Blackish and Fresh Off the Boat joke with them saying that it’s they are the “black and asain” shows. God knows why. I’m sure many people see them as that. People seem to overly sensitive these days.
I’ve just read the synopsis for 5 when it says David ran off years ago leaving Darlene to raise the kids on her own. There must be more to that as it seems a very dickish thing to do.
 
Apparently people are complaining about that Blackish and Fresh Off the Boat joke with them saying that it’s they are the “black and asain” shows. God knows why. I’m sure many people see them as that. People seem to overly sensitive these days.
I’ve just read the synopsis for 5 when it says David ran off years ago leaving Darlene to raise the kids on her own. There must be more to that as it seems a very dickish thing to do.

People are idiots. I see it as a joke that the white trash family came back and now there are is one black family and an Asian family on TV.

But who is more racist / whatever, Roseanne for making a little one line joke, or the fact that Black-ish is the only black family on TV, aka we have gone backwards, or that Fresh Off the Boat is the only Asian family show in the last 30 year years besides the short lived Doctor Ken or whatever it was called? Maybe instead of calling out the COMEDIAN we call out the asshole TV networks for not making more black or Asian or whatever families on the air?

David left Darlene because Darlene is gay, duh. ;)
 
Darlene isn't gay. They've made that joke already.
He obviously left because he found a more attractive blonde in LA.
 
Saw the third episode last night. LOVED the way Roseanne got her grandaughter out of that shower. :guffaw:
Word. :guffaw: I'll have nightmares from a week due to that! Who isn't petrified after seeing something like that (family wise that is)?
 
I only mentioned it once.
They could have made her gay but then you get into that "Sulu situation". Perhaps Sara didn't want her character to be that since she played the character for years as straight as that what the creators wanted her to be. There's also the fact that it would undermine the whole relationship if they did.
 
I have no clue why I typed 'you', I meant the writers, just keep winking at the 4th wall because everyone assumed that as soon as the revival came back that she would be gay on the show as well. I like the fact she wasn't made gay. It annoys me when the actor comes out as gay so character has to be. It be like bring back Frasier and making Niles gay, would just be silly and destroy the character.

Also you can date a guy at age 18 and still turn out to be gay. We all make mistakes when we are young.
 
I know but it felt like they genuinely loved each other. It’s also a TV show and I don’t see that going down well, no matter how realistic it could be.
 
About the conservatism thing. Nobody ever complained about King of the Hill, but if King of the Hill came out today they'd have to make Hank a Trump supporter. It'd be interesting how the reactions would be different. And if Hillary Clinton was president, Roseanne could come back as a conservative show and nobody would bat an eyelash. It's interesting how perspective has changed now that mainstream conservatism has gone so far beyond the pale with supporting white supremacy again.
King of the Hill wasn’t really a conservative show. Hank was depicted as old fashioned, but it never got political. The closest was an episode where Hank has a crisis about voting for George W. Bush after getting a weak handshake from him. It also wasn’t heavily shadowed by the political beliefs of its star, which in its case is the creator. I’m really not sure what his political beliefs are since I’ve never seen him talk about them and nothing he’s made has ever pushed them. It could be argued that the show was actually mocking conservatives like Hank because he’s frequently used as a punchline on the show for them. But it was careful to be fairly balanced, Hank cared more about America, propane and his family. Some things made him uncomfortable due to his beliefs, but generally he was shown as getting past that.
 
King of the Hill wasn’t really a conservative show. Hank was depicted as old fashioned, but it never got political. The closest was an episode where Hank has a crisis about voting for George W. Bush after getting a weak handshake from him. It also wasn’t heavily shadowed by the political beliefs of its star, which in its case is the creator. I’m really not sure what his political beliefs are since I’ve never seen him talk about them and nothing he’s made has ever pushed them. It could be argued that the show was actually mocking conservatives like Hank because he’s frequently used as a punchline on the show for them. But it was careful to be fairly balanced, Hank cared more about America, propane and his family. Some things made him uncomfortable due to his beliefs, but generally he was shown as getting past that.
Indeed. Hank was a rather sweet man, really. He loved his wife, and even bought her "feminine items" like diet soda (that one still makes me laugh to this day). He loved his son Bobby, even though that boy confused the hell out of him. He always tried to make room for them, to let them live, even if he thought it was crazy. He loved his father, but disliked how incredibly racist his father was, and I thought it was all a rather well-balanced show.
 
I know but it felt like they genuinely loved each other. It’s also a TV show and I don’t see that going down well, no matter how realistic it could be.
No matter what they do explaining why David isn't there will be very difficult. Maybe make it that David cheated on Darlene with a guy and Darlene goes 'And everything thinks I'm the gay one!'

Is Trump pro-propane?

Of course, he hasn't met a gas he doesn't love.

I find it ironic that everyone here says King of the Hill isn't political, but if it comes back it would be to explore conservativeness / ism during the Trump era.
 
King of the Hill wasn’t really a conservative show. Hank was depicted as old fashioned, but it never got political. The closest was an episode where Hank has a crisis about voting for George W. Bush after getting a weak handshake from him. It also wasn’t heavily shadowed by the political beliefs of its star, which in its case is the creator. I’m really not sure what his political beliefs are since I’ve never seen him talk about them and nothing he’s made has ever pushed them. It could be argued that the show was actually mocking conservatives like Hank because he’s frequently used as a punchline on the show for them. But it was careful to be fairly balanced, Hank cared more about America, propane and his family. Some things made him uncomfortable due to his beliefs, but generally he was shown as getting past that.

Exactly. In an interview Mike Judge related how he, as a new homeowner, had been helped in a DIY project by neighbors he barely even knew.

Anyway, I just thought this would be, like, a funny kind of world because they really were good neighbors. I mean, they were nice people, and they were helpful. And it's kind of like what you were saying about, you know, I don't even know what their politics were. I don't even care. I don't know what - I think people who analyze shows like this probably tend to put too much of politics on it because I don't think people like this, including myself, don't wake up and think about politics all day. You've got work to do and this kind of stuff, and so yeah, I think - anyway, I think it's just kind of like about neighbors who - and like you say, ultimately, do the right thing and do right by people and are basically good people.

--Mike Judge, NPR "Fresh Air", August 2009.

Hank was always learning that the values he cared about -- honesty, fairness, hard work -- were not unique to him and straight white males like him. It was probably the most constant theme in the show.

I don't know what Mike Judge's politics are, either, but I do get the impression that he values science and expertise, which can be political nowdays: q.v. Idiocracy.
 
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This episode was highly forgettable. No children and 10 seconds of DJ that was pointless. However I'm sure some idiot review will say 'Last week it was Blacks and Asians, this week it's dogs Roseanne hates!!!!!'.
 
I quite enjoyed this episode. It made you feel really bad for Becky. I’ve been watching some of the old episodes when it shows you that she was quite a smart kid and I like how it was addressed here.
I’m still finding it weird seeing them use mobile phones and taking selfies.
I believe they use David-Jacob sparringly is because he isn’t that great of an actor. I’m sure once he eases more into it they’ll give him more.

So is that the last we see of Becky #2?
 
I believe they use David-Jacob sparringly is because he isn’t that great of an actor. I’m sure once he eases more into it they’ll give him more.

So is that the last we see of Becky #2?

It's not like Roseanne is the best actor in the word either, yet she has been in every episode. :lol:

Do you really want to know the answer?
No. She is supposed to be signed on for the next season too. So Becky clearly gets a miracle baby.
 
The ending with Roseanne and Jackie getting the dog back was great! And also Roseanne’s reasons why Jackie would be the perfect person to adopt a dog. :lol:
 
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