Yup. I'd say it's one of the best seasons in all of SF&F. Right up there with the first season of TOS and season three of Buffy. I'd probably season six of DS9 right behind.
A Niner Watches Babylon 5 (NO spoilers, please)
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I love DS9 so much that only minutes after losing my virginity I showed the girl I was with the battle from Sacrifice of Angels. Sadly, that's not a joke.
Just remember kids, this is what can happen when your blood rushes from your brain.
Hey, it could have been worse. At least you didn't show her the battle from Sacrifice of Angels only minutes before you would have lost your virginity.I love DS9 so much that only minutes after losing my virginity I showed the girl I was with the battle from Sacrifice of Angels. Sadly, that's not a joke.
Cockblock...
Oh no, my little Defiant looked small enough next to those Dominion battlecruisers, I'm afraid about how puny it would look when compared with the Super Star Destroyer.
Look, it's not as pathetic as it seems, she said that Voyager was the best Trek show and that DS9 was boring, what would you guys have done in my place?!
I know, I'm a horribly pathetic man.
Hour of the Wolf (****)
I was wrong, Londo's not Gul Dukat, Emperor Cartagia is. This episode actually brings up something I found odd in Z'ha'dum; Sheridan's reasoning for going to Z'ha'dum is flimsy. He told Delenn that he chose to go because in the future Delenn told him not to go and he took this as a sign that he didn't go, so this time he will. Wouldn't it have been far more likely that Delenn told him not to go because he already did and she was trying to prevent whatever happened from happening again? Why would she tell him not to go if he didn't go in the past, because then she wouldn't know to tell him not to go.
I'm confused.
Anyway, future Delenn seems to have been right because as a result of Sheridan's actions in Z'ha'dum the Shadows have now landed on Centauri Prime, which is precisely the situation Sheridan was trying to avoid... I think. Oh, I don't know any more, perhaps it's time for me to turn my brain off and just accept what's happening?
Meanwhile, Ivanova is a drunk, too drunk to make a pass at Lyta, which I found very unfortunate. They go to Z'ha'dum (I hate typing that word) in the White Star, even though I thought the White Star got blowed up real good on Z'ha'dum (
). Anyway, the Shadows are like sirens and the crew have an uncontrollable urge to land on the planet (I'm not naming it again) for some sexy-time, but luckily Lennier is completely asexual so he saves them all. Meanwhile, G'Kar learned to worship the great Egyptian god Daffy. Say, whatever happened to Mr Garibaldi anyway?
Dukat was never as pants-on-head bonkers as Cartagia. That guy is a real, proper nutter. Dukat was only a part-time nutter/weekend megalomaniac type.
Best not to look too closely in that direction, just like you should ask yourself where did all of Valen's saying and prophecies actually come from as the man himself looked them all up in a history book from the future.
Figuring out paradoxes is like staring at of of those magic eye things. There is a sail boat in there somewhere, but is it really worth the migraine?
Personally, I think Sheridan just saw an opportunity to end the war then and there and used that glimpse of the future to talk himself into it, illogical though it may be.
Meanwhile, Ivanova is a drunk, too drunk to make a pass at Lyta, which I found very unfortunate. They go to Z'ha'dum (I hate typing that word) in the White Star, even though I thought the White Star got blowed up real good on Z'ha'dum (
They have like a hundred spare ones knocking around by now.
Funny you should mention that . . .
Exactly. Dukat had redeeming qualities and wasn't always wrong. He just went around the bend one day and never came back.
Cartasia...he was a full bag of nuts from the get go, never to be unsalted.
Cartasia...he was a full bag of nuts from the get go, never to be unsalted.
Heh yeah, Cartagia is essentially the Centauri version of Caligula. I always love watching crazy-in-power types.
Heh yeah, Cartagia is essentially the Centauri version of Caligula. I always love watching crazy-in-power types.
Agreed. Several B5 fans I met drew parallels between Cartagia and Roman Emperor Caligula...
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Hehe, Wortham Krimmer as the bat-shit crazy Emperor Cartagia... certainly one of the highlights of Season 4.
The thing is, it was probably a mistake to have Lord Refa killed. Because Refa was the only thing that kept Cartagia in check.
The thing is, it was probably a mistake to have Lord Refa killed. Because Refa was the only thing that kept Cartagia in check.
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I think Sheridan out-thought himself on this one.Sheridan's reasoning for going to Z'ha'dum is flimsy. He told Delenn that he chose to go because in the future Delenn told him not to go and he took this as a sign that he didn't go, so this time he will. Wouldn't it have been far more likely that Delenn told him not to go because he already did and she was trying to prevent whatever happened from happening again? Why would she tell him not to go if he didn't go in the past, because then she wouldn't know to tell him not to go.
I'm confused.
Did you miss the scene last season where Delenn shows Sheridan they have many more ships now in the White Star fleet? That scene was there somewhere (don't recall the episode title off the top of my head.) The one that got destroyed was the original White Star.They go to Z'ha'dum (I hate typing that word) in the White Star, even though I thought the White Star got blowed up real good on Z'ha'dum (
EDIT: the White Star Fleet first appears at the end of "And the Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place."
I love that scene. Garibaldi's "household God!"
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Spoiler.
Spoiler.
Being the Motley Fool/Jester in Cartagia's court is definitely one dangerous occupation, that's for sure. *oy* 
Cheers,
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Cheers,
-CM-
But I thought that the White Star was THE White Star and all the other White Star style ships were called something else.
It's like when the Defiant was destroyed, it was a powerful moment, but then they replaced it with an exact copy (except for the ugly carpet) and made the emotional context of the earlier episode a bit pointless. The same is true with the Enterprise A in TVH.
Whatever Happened to Mr Garibaldi? (****)
This is an odd title for an episode that's hardly about Garibaldi, even G'Kar's plot about finding Garibaldi gets completely sidetracked once he is captured and brought to Centauri Prime. I did enjoy what little we saw of Mr Garibaldi in this episode, it appears that the PsiCorps captured him somehow in order to learn what he knows about the Shadows. If so, why can't they just do a mind scan on him? I guess I'll find out in The Very Long Night of Londo Mollari, which is sure to be almost entirely about Garibaldi.
Meanwhile, Sheridan talks to Lorien, because he's worth it. Lorien appears to be a big blue ball of plasma with arms, but he's also a cool looking alien that's trying to convince Sheridan to let go of life in a near-death experience. It's like Coda, only not craptacular. Oh, and Sheridan has some of Kosh in him, but I'm too mature to make a dirty joke about that.
Really, I am.
Then there's G'Kar, finally captured by the Centauri and brought to Emperor Cartagia for his amusement. Londo and G'Kar surely have changed over the last season, this time last year they were trapped in an elevator together with G'Kar gleefully awaiting Londo's death, now they're willing to work with one another? It's at times like this that I really wish I had seen Londo's overture to G'Kar in And The Rock Cried Out, No Hiding Place.
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They're just numbered. So the original, that was destroyed at Z'ha'dum, was retroactively made into White Star 1, the one that the crew of Babylon 5 uses regularly now is White Star 2, and the others are all White Star 9, White Star 27, White Star 90, and so on. And the name has now been genericized (like Kleenex, or Xerox), so whichever one is handy is "the" White Star, much like how I refer to my car as "the" Toyota, even though it isn't the only one.
Amazingly, in the entire series, we're only going to encounter one person who actually thinks it might be a good idea to give a White Star its own name. Everyone else apparently thinks the numbering system is hunky-dory.
The last time we saw Garibaldi, his Starfury was inside a Shadow vessel, remember.
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Actually, that episode is entierly about Lennier's pet gok that escapes into the hydroponic gardens where it befriends a larval pak'ma'ra and they...well you'll find out.
As for the Psi Corp interrogation...do you seriously expect anyone to give you a straight answer to that? You can however rest assured that there is an answer and it'll make sense when you're in full possession of the facts. It'll take a while though. Best leave it to the back of your mind for now.
If Lorien seems oddly familiar, it's because Wayne Alexander was last seen playing Mr. Sebastian (Jack the Ripper) back in season 2. Well actually he was last seen playing one of the Narn that tore Reefa's head off, but it's easy to miss him in that part as it was only a few lines of dialogue.
Alexander is one of those actors that does well under prosthetics so they keep bringing him back. You have have already noticed that all the Drazi and most of the Narn characters feel like they're all played by the same two or three guys...probably because they are.
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