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A James Bond Fan Reviews the Franchise

Goldeneye (***½)
Seriously? You think LTK is better than Goldeneye?

Hell.

No.

Although I'm surprised you made no mention of Eric Serra's.... unusual score. ;) Some of it I actually do like (and in fact own the soundtrack), but thank god for David Arnold in the subsequent films!
 
Goldeneye (***½)
Seriously? You think LTK is better than Goldeneye?

Hell.

No.

Although I'm surprised you made no mention of Eric Serra's.... unusual score. ;) Some of it I actually do like (and in fact own the soundtrack), but thank god for David Arnold in the subsequent films!
agreed on both points. LTK is good, but its not superior to Goldeneye IMO. the Goldeneye score has its moments, but when you sit down to watch Tomorrow Never Dies you not only notice the score, but are thankful for it.
 
Agreed. I always wished there could have been some sort of re-edit with a new David Arnold score added to the film (though I did, inexplicably, quite like the Eric Serra version of the gunbarrel theme at the beginning).
 
GoldenEye might still be my favorite Bond film simply because it came at the perfect time for me. I was 12, hadn't really experienced much James Bond yet, and this was the first one I can really remember liking. I'd seen a couple of Roger Moore's movies when I was younger, but they never really left much of an impact on me.

My only real issue with the movie is Eric Serra's awful score. What were they thinking? It's the only thing holding the movie back, IMO. Thank goodness they realized their mistake and went back to a more traditional composer in David Arnold.
 
Yes, as others above have mentioned, Goldeneye was a perfect match for Brosnan at the right time. In fact, I'd call it the best Bond film of the '90s. Possibly also better any other Bond film for the last thirty years (For Your Eyes Only and Casino Royale excepting).
 
After License To Kill is where I bailed on the Bond franshise and Brosnan couldn't bring me back. The only thing I've ever liked about any of the Brosnan films have been the theme songs. It took Daniel Craig in Casino Royale to draw me back. Quantum Of Solace wasn't horrible, but it wasn't as good as Casino Royale.

I really hope they can sort out the franchise issues and get Craig back again before too long.
 
^ They're not really franchise issues, in the sense that the 1989-95 hiatus was. The problem is with MGM, the studio which has the rights to 007 and which faces bankruptcy. This also held up production of The Hobbit. But these issues seem to have been sorted; The Hobbit is up and running and it looks like Craig will return, to be directed by Sam Mendes.
 
Tomorrow Never Dies (**½)

What can be said about this movie except that it's just so bland and average. Nothing really stands out about it, either for good or bad. It's just a standard, run-of-the-mill action movie.

I suppose that after watching it again there are a few things I can pick apart. For example, it's nice to see the aftermath of one of Bond's conquests in Paris Carver. Even though we haven't seen the original romance between the two of them, I can easily see their interactions being what would happen if, say, Natalya or Stacey Sutton ever popped back into Bond's life. In the end, however, she's just another Bond Girl, one of many women Bond has bedded - and, to be honest, Teri Hatcher didn't blow me away with her acting. It's also nice to see M and Moneypenny's attitudes toward Bond toned down a little since Goldeneye. But, there's still that air of condescension with them that I don't like, even if they share very little screen time with Bond.

On the other side, the movie doesn't have a good villain. Elliot Carver is simply not threatening or menacing. This is not a worthy adversary for James Bond. I mean, I'm sorry, but a media mogul whose primary goal is to sell newspapers and increase TV ratings is not in the same league as SPECTRE, Kananga, Sanchez, or Trevelyan, even if he is attempting to cause a major war between China and the U.K. Jonathan Pryce does a passable job with what he's given, but that isn't much. Again, the Bond villain fails into the problem of being outshone by his henchmen. Even Vincent Schiavelli is more memorable as Dr. Kaufman, and he was only in one scene. Also, why bring back Jake Wade? I didn't like in the last movie, and I still don't like him. And his role in this movie could have been filled my some nameless CIA agent - he was not needed.

But, like I said, this movie's biggest problem is that it's just another big budget action flick. There's nothing with action flicks, some can be very good - I'd easily give Die Hard a five-star rating. But this one just doesn't have anything to make it anything special.

The only truly good things I can say about it are.... 1.) Brosnan himself does a good job again as Bond - playing him as the perfect balance of serious, cold, funny, and self-reflective (especially in the scene where Paris comes to his hotel room). 2.) The music is good - not great, but good. That's about it.

So, another film falters thanks to no fault of the main star.

That's Amore: 45
Bond slept with his unnamed Danish instructor, Paris Carver, and Wai Lin.

Body Count: 288 (+24)
 
Brosnan is as good as ever, Michelle Yeoh is very memorable and there's a very good opening sequence. But you're right, by and large it's a pretty average Bond movie. Carver is forgettable at best, annoying at worst. And Brosnan has to deliver Bond's weakest ever retort to a baddie - 'You really are mad, you know.' Yes James, they usually are.

And is it just me or is the climax a rehash of The Spy Who Loved Me?
 
Brosnan is as good as ever, Michelle Yeoh is very memorable and there's a very good opening sequence. But you're right, by and large it's a pretty average Bond movie. Carver is forgettable at best, annoying at worst. And Brosnan has to deliver Bond's weakest ever retort to a baddie - 'You really are mad, you know.' Yes James, they usually are.

And is it just me or is the climax a rehash of The Spy Who Loved Me?


I think of it as of a movie of two halves. The first part is forgettable, but, sad to say, the movie perks up enormously after Teri Hatcher dies and Michele Yeoh takes over. Yeoh pretty much makes the second part of the movie worth seeing.
 
Brosnan is as good as ever, Michelle Yeoh is very memorable and there's a very good opening sequence. But you're right, by and large it's a pretty average Bond movie. Carver is forgettable at best, annoying at worst. And Brosnan has to deliver Bond's weakest ever retort to a baddie - 'You really are mad, you know.' Yes James, they usually are.

And is it just me or is the climax a rehash of The Spy Who Loved Me?


I think of it as of a movie of two halves. The first part is forgettable, but, sad to say, the movie perks up enormously after Teri Hatcher dies and Michele Yeoh takes over. Yeoh pretty much makes the second part of the movie worth seeing.

Teri Hatcher is devoid of acting talent and the fact she always comes across like such an air head in whatever role she plays neuters any sex appeal she might have.
 
Teri Hatcher is devoid of acting talent and the fact she always comes across like such an air head in whatever role she plays neuters any sex appeal she might have.

My loins disagree with the second half of your opinion, but my brain agrees with the first half.
 
i think if you cut all of her scenes except the sex and death scenes it would have been better lol.
 
Teri Hatcher is devoid of acting talent and the fact she always comes across like such an air head in whatever role she plays neuters any sex appeal she might have.


I actually liked her as Lois Lane, and enjoyed her recent cameo on SMALLVILLE, but her Bond character was a real wet blanket. (To be fair, it was a thankless role in that she was stuck playing Bond's bitter, cranky ex-girlfriend. Not exactly one's idea of a sexy Bond girl.)
 
^^^ TND loses points for me in the second half.
Again we see Bond in the role of commando or special forces with too much assault action for my tastes.
Bond is in intelligence, military action should be left to other professionals.
I don't mind seeing Bond as an action hero sometimes, but not so much this kind of action.
 
The World Is Not Enough (**)

Another lackluster outing for Pierce Brosnan.

This movie shares the same problem as Tomorrow Never Dies - it's just another run-of-the-mill action movie with big explosions, lots of unnecessary action and little to do with espionage. Bond continues to act more like a commando and the action is starting to get a little out of hand.

That being said, there are a few good things about it. It is good to see Bond using his detective skills again for a brief moment, something that's been sidelined for far too long. It's also good that we get a more detailed look at life inside MI6. Brosnan continues to play the part well, especially this time as a very self-reflective and hesitant Bond. The return of Zukovsky is welcome, a good character that really didn't need to be killed off. The problem is that these few admirable qualities are drowned out by the film's flaws.

First and foremost amongst those flaws are the villains. Again we get antagonists that are not menacing or threatening. If anything, they are annoying, especially Renard. When I watch a movie, especially a Bond movie, I want the villain to evoke a feeling of "when the hero kills this guy, it will be great because justice will be served and he deserves to die for what he's done." With Renard, I could only think "please kill this guy already so I don't have to listen to him anymore." "Annoying" does not equal "good villain." And really, the same is true for Elektra. The franchise finally had the guts to have a female main villain, not just a female henchman, and this is the best they could do? She's just so bland and, again, annoying. All I could think was "shut your whiny, stupid, bitch mouth already!" Not much else to say about her.

Secondly, there's Christmas Jones. Now, I actually like this character. I think it's a sound concept for a Bond Girl. However, the problem is that she was so woefully miscast. Denise Richards simply does not make for a convincing nuclear physicist. And no, it's not because she runs around in a tank top and hot pants. I'm not one of those guys who believes that a woman can't both be very smart and able to have a smokin' hot body at the same time. The problem is that Richards simply doesn't have the acting range to convince me of the character. Compare Christmas to Natalya from Goldeneye - another amazingly attractive woman who ran around in a mini-skirt and a skin-tight sweater or a bikini who happened to be a computer programmer. The thing is that Izabella Scorupco was able to convince me that Natalya was capable of doing the things she needed to do. Richards can't do that. Now, that's not even to say that Richards is a bad actress. She is a good one, when she sticks to parts within her range. For example, her lesbian sex scenes with Neve Campbell in Wild Things were brilliantly acted. When she sticks to that range - of "show us your tits and make out with another smokin' hot woman" - she does just fine. :techman: However, a nuclear scientist just doesn't fall within that range, more's the pity. Another actress should have been chosen.

Finally, a lot of the supporting characters are again sub-par. M and Moneypenny continue to have aggressive relationships with Bond, which I've already talked about. And then there's R. This character just does not work for me. Without Q, there's no point in having a similar character. And John Cleese, as funny as he is in other roles, is simply no Desmond Llewelyn.

So, it appears that Pierce Brosnan has found himself in quite a hole after his third movie, thanks to nothing he's done. While it is still mathematically possible for him to stay out of last place, based on average scores, Die Another Day is going to have to be exceptionally good.

That's Amore: 48
Bond slept with his MI6 doctor, Elektra King, and Dr. Christmas Jones.

Body Count: 312 (+24)

Redshirt Sidekicks: 9


Now, if you'll excuse me, I need to watch a better movie after watching that one. I think I'll put Wild Things in. ;)
 
What can one say about Denise Richards?

Um.....



Uhhh....



Ummmm....


Yeah, that's about it.
 
TWINE has one of the best ever opening Bond sequences (as well as the longest, IIRC). I also like how Bond sustains an injury in that sequence, which bugs him for part of the rest of the movie.

I liked also how Q & M got into the action (poor old Llwelyn's swansong) and the return of Robbie Coltrane's Valentin, dying quite heroically. There are also some good action sequences and the nod to the family motto as seen in OHMSS is nice.

But yes, for some reason it's just not quite classic Bond, despite Brosnan being as watchable as ever. Better than TND but no Goldeneye.
 
Agh! Playing catch up again!

Goldeneye: One of the top 5 Bond films for me, pretty much flawless, every single bit of it comes together perfectly. Hell even the score has grown in me. Great Bond, great villain, great Moneypenny, fab girl, fabber henchgirl (seriously Xenia can squeeze me to death any day) and as for the gadgets? Not really any more than Dalton had in my opinion. What does Brosnan use? A laser watch, I give you, is a bit of a stretch, but then Dalton had a car with lasers coming out of the wheels! Other than that the two gadgets that save 007 are, wait for it...a belt come rappalling line, and a pen with a bomb in it...neither that fanciful (shame about the BMW, why oh why would Bond drive German!) Oh, and the tank chase...just perfect!

Tomorrow Never dies. Underated in my opinion, although I take on board all the complaints about it, it just seems to work inspite of this for me. Has some good set pieces; the pre tirle sequence is great, as is the back seat driver bits! Michelle Yeoh is a good, diffrent Bond girl. Pryce isn't great but isn't terrible, Stamper is woeful but at least we got a few minutes of Dr Kauffman which is almost worth the price of admission alone and gives us one of my favourite Brosnan moments.

"Mr Bond, I'm just a professional doing a job."

"So am I." Blam! Wow! Kudos to Brosnan to appear that pissed off over the death of such a lousy Bond girl...

TWINE: Lousy. Brosnan's worst film for me. Elektra almost saves it, but her deciept was all over the media beforehand unfortunately. Carlyle is poor, seriously I realise Reanaud isn't the villain, he's a henchman, but still...

People always go on about the pre title sequence, but while its good, it's incredibly flawed. Firstly (and perhaps most importantly) why, why is cigar girl sayt outside MI6 HQ on a speedboat bristling with guns...I mean, the sequence died before it started for me. Then it goes on too long and, worst of all, they reuse the tie gag from during Goldeneye's tank chase (oh and the least said about the clampers the better)

The film itself is just so colourless, there are interesting ideas at work but poor casting ruins it, as does quite insipid direction. The franchise lost its way when it insisted on hiring famous (ish) American actresses as Bond girls.

Still it has some moments. Q's farewell is just wonderful, and Bond's "I never miss" is very cold. But in my bottom 5 if I'm honest.
 
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