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A First Contact what if question

I mean in the movie they discuss that the Enterprise E is the ship best equipped to combat the Borg threat

Well, not quite. Rather, LaForge responds with indignation to their banishment by saying that the ship is "the most advanced in the fleet" and "ready", that is, no longer unready. Nothing there about prowess against the Borg.

Implicitly, Picard is the resident expert on the Borg, of course. But Starfleet probably wasn't thinking about that when putting him in command of the E-E.

...but are relegated to the Neutral Zone because Starfleet Command doesn't trust Picard in this situation.

Or then a faction of it does not. If all the top brass found Picard a traitor, he would get a desk job at Requisitions, not a starship. Or then a quiet but lengthy beating with phase-truncheons until he saw the benefit of voluntarily retiring for good. Sending him t the RNZ would seem to be a compromise of some sort.

I didn't say that the Enterprise E was there just for combat related missions, just that the ship was designed with the increasing threats towards the Federation in mind, and would (that issue with Picard and the Borg notwithstanding) be among the first to be called on for missions like that, while there's likely ships who are more geared towards other missions as well.

But we see she isn't. Called into action, that is. We never see her or any of her sisters do combat on Starfleet's behest, only against the wishes of Starfleet!

What to make of the constant upgrades or modifications to the ship between each movie? The dockyards seem to add torpedo tubes like mad - did the ship originally have too few, did the doctrine on torps change during the Dominion War, or was she modular and carrying some competing gear originally, but is now being swung towards a more combative role?

Timo Saloniemi
 
Plus Cochrane and his friends lived in shanties and tents,
When we first see Cochrane and Lily they're heading off to get some sleep, they're also walking away from the shanty town. Cochrane and his crew don't live in the shanty town, most likely they have living quarters in the silo's underground support facilities.

So what's the shanty town? Camp followers, not in any way attached to Cochrane's project. Like the shops and bars immediately outside a military base.
Sure, after the Vulcans showed up Earth recovered within 50 years
The Vulcan ambassador in Enterprise (in a conversation with Admiral Forrest) said that the Vulcans were basically amazed at the speed of Earth's recovery, especially in comparison to Vulcan's recovery historically from a similar war. That (to me) doesn't sound like the Vulcans had a major part to play in Earth's recovery.
Starfleet Command doesn't trust Picard in this situation
Likely they didn't trust Picard's command crew either, which could explain why the Enterprise wasn't ordered into battle under Riker.
I didn't say that the Enterprise E was there just for combat related missions
I was responding to a post by Timo.
 
It must have been a mess, because as the film depicts, the escape pods all launched and the whole crew did indeed evacuate to Grevette Island. So, Picard and Data must have had to beam up the entire crew and then find a way to recall or eliminate the escape pods.
 
It must have been a mess, because as the film depicts, the escape pods all launched and the whole crew did indeed evacuate to Grevette Island. So, Picard and Data must have had to beam up the entire crew and then find a way to recall or eliminate the escape pods.
Has there ever been a definitive answer to the capability of escape pods? They look slow and definitely don't look like they have enough thrust to break orbit but surely are quick enough to escape a warpcore breach otherwise are a bit useless
 
It must have been a mess, because as the film depicts, the escape pods all launched and the whole crew did indeed evacuate to Grevette Island. So, Picard and Data must have had to beam up the entire crew and then find a way to recall or eliminate the escape pods.

If the escape pods couldn't leave the Earth's surface under their own propulsion maybe they got beamed back into space and remote guided from the Enterprise back into their car holes (to quote moe syzlak)
 
They probably waited and watched from a safe distance to see if Picard and Data get out in time.
 
A phaser set to X-ray could secretly sterilise the crew, which could be entirely necessary once the Vulcans start surveying the planet to rebuild.

The Vulcans may have a Temporal Prime Directive, but that doesn't mean that a middle ranked opportunist might not want to harvest intelligence and technology from the 24th century colony.

"Non human" life signs can be detected from orbit, even if they have abandoned all their Higher technogy.
 
Has there ever been a definitive answer to the capability of escape pods? They look slow and definitely don't look like they have enough thrust to break orbit but surely are quick enough to escape a warpcore breach otherwise are a bit useless
They stack on top of one another, forming the shape of Starfleet's emblem, and with their combined power they break orbit with a rainbow trailing behind them. :techman:
 
The ones on the Defiant, also used as Voyager assets, have phaser strips. Stacks of them can probably defeat Borg Cubes.

An entire if smallish starship was tractored off the surface of a Class M planet by another smallish starship in DS9 "The Ship". We don't know the exact distances involved - but the tractoring ship dipping deep into the atmoshere would actually be a good thing, helping it hide from planetary sensors. Which wouldn't have spotted a properly shielded ship in the 1990s ("Future's End"), but might have gotten better by the 2060s.

Beaming up of the pods should be easily doable, too - they are not that big. But we have no idea of their propulsive capabilities. If they can whisk the occupants to another star system after a disaster, they will be able to effect a liftoff from Earth, or from a neutron star for that matter. But if they just float around after launch, at best reaching a planet a few thousand kilometers away, then takeoff is far from guaranteed. The VOY ones sounded capable enough, being deployed in the middle of nowhere in several episodes, and expected to make it to a star system somehow. Then again, they were the ones with the phaser strips; the E-E ones don't have those.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Oh, no, not at all. Indeed, they are legacy hardware from the days of the Steamrunner class, from the looks of them. :devil:

But yes, I'm sure they have had plenty of time to evolve more civilized ways of coping. Indeed, perhaps the ability to gather into a gaggle whenever attacked was introduced with them?

Timo Saloniemi
 
I don't really see that beaming the escape pods up from the surface and back into their launch bays, sockets, whatever you wish to call them would be the slightest issue.

Starfleet transporters had been reconstituting the subatomic particles of half a dozen people or so in a single beam up for about two hundred years at that point, why would precisely beaming escape pods into their bays pose any sort of challenge?
 
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