6.5X012 Closing Time (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)

[Photoman15]

So I wonder how "old" Gollum-ten was when the master artificially aged him in the year that never happened.

If you follow what the Master said, he was aged to 905/906. The Master turned off his regenerative powers and aged him what he would look like had he no regens. However, Gollum-ten did have the face of Tennant, but there was really nothing they could do about that without $million dollars worth of CGIing Hartnell's face over him.

 

[Samurai8472]

^
Why would it be Hartnell's face?

 

[Photoman15]

^
Because if he was supposed to look as if he had no regens, Hartnell was the first (as far as we know) image to be the doctor.

 

[Skellington]

^ I'm pretty sure that no more regens or immunity to ageing was the issue. To turn him into Hartnell, the Master would have had to claw back nine regenerations - handy trick if you can manage it.

Going by an offhand comment from The War Games, Time Lords can "live forever, barring accidents".

 

[Skellington]

Oops, double post

 

[Worf2DS9]

I noticed in the scene with the Doctor outside the TARDIS at night that the sign on the left door is backlit as well. I'm sure this must be an upgrade to Eleven's TARDIS, because I sure don't remember 9/10's doing that.

 

[DWF]

I noticed in the scene with the Doctor outside the TARDIS at night that the sign on the left door is backlit as well. I'm sure this must be an upgrade to Eleven's TARDIS, because I sure don't remember 9/10's doing that.

I noticed that too and it's new that's for sure and I liked it.

 

[P0sitr0nic]

I saw that too.. it makes the Tardis look anachronistically modern, for a police box of a design not in use for decades...

 

[Checkmate]

...look anachronistically...

In Doctor Who? Perish the thought.

 

[Skellington]

I saw that too.. it makes the Tardis look anachronistically modern, for a police box of a design not in use for decades...

The old girl probably doesn't give a darn about being conspicuous any more. Age has its privileges.

 

[Checkmate]

It's kind of pointless anyway since it's the perception filter that does all the work.

 

[Skellington]

^ Yeah, the shape-changing facility is probably backup and more or less redundant. Handy if you want to hide from an adversary who's immune to perception filters, but the Doctor would probably want them to know who they're trifling with.

 

[TechnoBoY]

Episode was pretty average. Craig kind of annoyed me. I loved that baby!

 

[David cgc]

I noticed in the scene with the Doctor outside the TARDIS at night that the sign on the left door is backlit as well. I'm sure this must be an upgrade to Eleven's TARDIS, because I sure don't remember 9/10's doing that.

Yep. Since "Eleventh Hour," I thought it just had a reflective coating on it, like a street sign, but I recently read somewhere that it actually is backlit.

 

[The Lensman]

Well, right off the bat, I have to wonder why the hell us North American viewers have that stupid Amy's opening narration for this episode. Amy and Rory have only one scence cameo in this episode so to have Amy telling us of meeting the Doctor as a child and joining him on adventures as a grown up seems really pointless in this episode. I accept Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill are still in the credits due to contractual reasons, but there was no need for the opening narration. Actually, there's never any need for it, but that's besides the point.
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Because, like it or not, it's part of the opening credits for North America right now. It also get's people who've never watched the show up to speed on the concept.....like the whole "Space, the final frontier" thing in Star Trek.

Frankly, I've come to like the narration as it adds something fresh to the opening credits without changing the main credit sequence. It'll be interesting to see what happens to it when the companions eventually change.

It was left out of the North American DVDs for the first half of the season, so it's not really "part of the opening credits." Besides, Doctor Who does not need an opening narration to explain what the hell it's about. It lasted 47 years without one. And Star Trek eventually dropped the "Space, the final frontier" intro anyway.

It not being on the DVD's means nothing, as does the whole "it lasted 47 years without it".

It's there, in an age of hundreds of channels, YouTube, Netflix, XBox, iTunes, etc, to give a quick summary of the show to people who might be running across it for the first time.

It doesn't need to be on the DVD because most people who've bought the DVD have made the commitment to watch it through.

While it wasn't used at the beginning, the "Space the final frontier" bit was used at the end of the last Star Trek film. And as far as I'm concerned, the forgettable Treks are the ones that didn't have it.

 

[EyalM]

Maybe I missed something, but how does the doctor know that he is supposed to die "tomorrow" (from his perspective)?
All he has is a date, but that's meaningless for a time traveler. For all he knows, he could have died at the age of 910, 1000 or even 1300.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

A Time Lord knows. 'Nuff said.

Also known as "a wizard did it."

 

[Stevil2001]

Though we didn't see it happen, it seems likely that Amy told him how old he was when he died.

Which, if so, I like Guy Gardener's suggestion that his birthday's in two days, so he knows he dies tomorrow.