It could just the prop folks misunderstanding "the day before the Doctor dies." Or not even caring.
6.5X012 Closing Time (Grading/Discussion) (SPOILERS!)
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W Morgan Sheppard was in the TNG episode as Dr Ira Graves. In The Impossible Astronaut he plays Canton Everett Delaware III, as does his son Mark. Both of them have cross-pollinated a lot when it comes to sci-fi projects.
Yeah, but it would only buy you a few minutes.
He's done quite a few other Trek roles as well, such as the Klingon warden in Star Trek VI and the Vulcan elder in the 'reboot'.
If you have the PC game Civilization V, he's also the voice of the elder in the opening cutscene and the main narrative voice in the game (Replacing Leonard Nimoy).
If you have the PC game Civilization V, he's also the voice of the elder in the opening cutscene and the main narrative voice in the game (Replacing Leonard Nimoy).
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Except you're not paying attention. You're clinging to a minor mistake regarding something that can barely be said to have appeared on-screen, and ignoring everything else. Or worse, trying to twist it to your own ends rather than accepting what's actually happening.
He also played a soul hunter on Babylon 5. His son played Badger on Firefly.
I think claiming certitude that it was a prop error is equally misplaced. Not without more information. If this doesn't come up in the finale, we can say it's reasonable to say that it isn't supposed to be contemporary. But we don't know anything just yet or are able to rule out either possibility. It seems likely to have been intentionally done even if just intentionally done by the production staff (unless the episode was filmed right then). But that strikes out your "never believed it would be seen on screen" argument.
Yes I did pay attention, but it's been a while since I've seen the episode so I forgot. And Are we going to see him again?
Occam's Razor also says that the date probably isn't a coincidence. It strikes me as something done intentionally, either by the production staff or asked for by the writer.
Still playing the telepath card?
Care to tell me what my own ends are, as opposed to what's actually happening? That should be interesting.
Well, to you, anyway. I imagine everyone else on the thread is sick of us by now.
Well sod the whole grumpy lot of ya, I really enjoyed it 
Wasn't The Girl Who Waited or The God Compex good, but it was hugely enjoyable lightweight fluff, which it was all it was intended to be.
Smith was superb in this. Despite seeming like a tosser everytime I see him interviewed, Corden yet again makes Craig seem a warm, very likeable fellow. I loved Stormaggedon, loved seeing Lynda Barron again (Just watched Enlightenment Friday in fact), loved seeing the Cybermen, a cybermat, loved the coda (I love how Alex Kingston seems to give us a different River each time we see her).
And you know what, I actually like Gareth Roberts' episodes...hell give me him writing Who over Gattis any day...
Wasn't The Girl Who Waited or The God Compex good, but it was hugely enjoyable lightweight fluff, which it was all it was intended to be.Smith was superb in this. Despite seeming like a tosser everytime I see him interviewed, Corden yet again makes Craig seem a warm, very likeable fellow. I loved Stormaggedon, loved seeing Lynda Barron again (Just watched Enlightenment Friday in fact), loved seeing the Cybermen, a cybermat, loved the coda (I love how Alex Kingston seems to give us a different River each time we see her).
And you know what, I actually like Gareth Roberts' episodes...hell give me him writing Who over Gattis any day...
Well, right off the bat, I have to wonder why the hell us North American viewers have that stupid Amy's opening narration for this episode. Amy and Rory have only one scence cameo in this episode so to have Amy telling us of meeting the Doctor as a child and joining him on adventures as a grown up seems really pointless in this episode. I accept Karen Gillan and Arthur Darvill are still in the credits due to contractual reasons, but there was no need for the opening narration. Actually, there's never any need for it, but that's besides the point.
This episode had a lot of great humour in it. The Doctor having conversations with Craig's baby, the Doctor's co-worker thinking him and Craig are gay lovers being my particular recurring jokes. I would have liked to have seen more of Sophie, but I guess the plot kind of required her absence.
I found the Cybermen were kind of wasted. They just weren't that prominent. I suppose the episode is really just supposed to be a buddy comdey between the Doctor and Craig and the Cybermen are just supposed to be the alien bad guy getting in the way, but I would like the Cybermen to be used in an important role again as opposed to all these throwaway cameos we've had since Moffat took over. I loved the Cybermat however, and found this one came off as a lot more threatening than they ever did in the classic era.
Overall, I'd say that this is quite am enjoyable and funny episode. Might be among the best of season 6.
Now the ending. Yeah, I get that that's just meant to set things up for Epic Finale next week, and I probably shouldn't jusdge things yet befor seeing how they play out. But, based on what we just saw it seems as though the crime River commits that gets her sentenced to Stormcage and labelled the worst war criminal in the history of the universe is in fact something she was forced to do against her will. How's that for 51st century justice? Yeah, I know, things will be properly explained next week and hopefully this will make more sense, but I felt compelled to comment on it anyway.
This episode had a lot of great humour in it. The Doctor having conversations with Craig's baby, the Doctor's co-worker thinking him and Craig are gay lovers being my particular recurring jokes. I would have liked to have seen more of Sophie, but I guess the plot kind of required her absence.
I found the Cybermen were kind of wasted. They just weren't that prominent. I suppose the episode is really just supposed to be a buddy comdey between the Doctor and Craig and the Cybermen are just supposed to be the alien bad guy getting in the way, but I would like the Cybermen to be used in an important role again as opposed to all these throwaway cameos we've had since Moffat took over. I loved the Cybermat however, and found this one came off as a lot more threatening than they ever did in the classic era.
Overall, I'd say that this is quite am enjoyable and funny episode. Might be among the best of season 6.
Now the ending. Yeah, I get that that's just meant to set things up for Epic Finale next week, and I probably shouldn't jusdge things yet befor seeing how they play out. But, based on what we just saw it seems as though the crime River commits that gets her sentenced to Stormcage and labelled the worst war criminal in the history of the universe is in fact something she was forced to do against her will. How's that for 51st century justice? Yeah, I know, things will be properly explained next week and hopefully this will make more sense, but I felt compelled to comment on it anyway.
I don't like single episode stories much but last week's was very good. This week's far less so. Too much time wasted on the 'companion's' home life, too much time wasted on a gay joke that was worth one chuckle the first time they used it, and a very, very flimsy plot. I think I'd have been much happier if the finale had been a two-parter.
Kudos on the cameo from Rory and Amy though - that was well handled. And yay for cybermats!
Kudos on the cameo from Rory and Amy though - that was well handled. And yay for cybermats!
Mark Sheppard was also Romo Lampkin on nuBSG, and recurs on "Leverage."
I appreciate you finding that. I was trying to figure out where to look, but wasn't having any luck. That strengthens my thoughts. Doesn't solve anything, just shows that it wasn't simply a tiny thing nobody believed would be seen on screen (they generally don't take chances with that these days anyway). Somebody (whoever created the prop, the writer of the episode, or Moffat) treated this episode as immediately before the events of TIA in our chronological timeline. Doesn't mean anything overall except wait and see.
BTW, looking at that:
BTW, looking at that:
Did they go back to Utah? I would think some scenes have to take place there, but it doesn't indicate if they were filmed back then or if they had to film them later
Because, like it or not, it's part of the opening credits for North America right now. It also get's people who've never watched the show up to speed on the concept.....like the whole "Space, the final frontier" thing in Star Trek.
Frankly, I've come to like the narration as it adds something fresh to the opening credits without changing the main credit sequence. It'll be interesting to see what happens to it when the companions eventually change.
So they include something like that on something people who DON'T own HDTVs and pause the show CAN'T SEE
Sigh, its the Enterprise fans with the Archer biography all over again.
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