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5x05 Flesh and Stone (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS!

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Not really. She just wants the show to be more like it used to. Oh well.

It was the whole 'virgin queen' gag that set her off.
 
Not really. She just wants the show to be more like it used to. Oh well.
Like when the Doctor kissed Martha in the first episode of Season 3? or the Doctor kissing Rose and Jack in season 1?
Or the Tardis stopping off in Wales to recharge while Ricky and Rose 'meet' a few hours.
 
Not really. She just wants the show to be more like it used to. Oh well.
Like when the Doctor kissed Martha in the first episode of Season 3? or the Doctor kissing Rose and Jack in season 1?
Or the Tardis stopping off in Wales to recharge while Ricky and Rose 'meet' a few hours.


Well, more like pre-1989 actually. Shes a long time fan like me.

Honestly, I kinda agree with her. But it'll take a lot more than this to make me stop watching.
 
Not really. She just wants the show to be more like it used to. Oh well.
Like when the Doctor kissed Martha in the first episode of Season 3? or the Doctor kissing Rose and Jack in season 1?
Or the Tardis stopping off in Wales to recharge while Ricky and Rose 'meet' a few hours.


Well, more like pre-1989 actually. Shes a long time fan like me.

Honestly, I kinda agree with her. But it'll take a lot more than this to make me stop watching.

The Doctor should be an asexual, passionless Vulcan?

Nope! Don't agree at all.
 
It would be nice if people would just say they don't like a show rather than cooking up ridiculously stupid reasons for why they allegedly don't. This is an example of one of those ridiculously stupid reasons.
 
It would be nice if people would just say they don't like a show rather than cooking up ridiculously stupid reasons for why they allegedly don't. This is an example of one of those ridiculously stupid reasons.
Yeah, fancy having an actual reason for disliking something. What a nutter.
 
Considering it's nothing new and totally explainable within the context of the show, yeah... that's not a real reason at all. It's someone being pissy and making some bullshit reason up for being pissy about it, instead of just admitting that they're being pissy.
 
Erm, this is someone who's grown to dislike an aspect of the show enough that it means they're not watching it. You might think that's "pissy", but it's dislike with justification.
 
Actually, this was the first time the Doctor's reaction to advances from a companion has seemed right to me.

Yes, I suspect he had a deep affection for Sarah Jane and Jo Grant and a few others. But personally, I never saw it as being sexual on his part (though possibly theirs). Because he's 900 years old, has two hearts and sees the whole universe in all time and space. His reaction to Amy "I'm 900 years old!" seemed completely in character. It was good to see some recognition that sex isn't a factor in all relationships, and even that people can on occasion say 'no'.
 
I think Cutter John's friend made the right decision for her life. If something as tame and silly as Doctor Who is offensive, then it's best said offended parties don't veer too far outside the Christian channels... :techman:
 
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Well, you're doing it again. Where you make assumptions about someone because of how they view the show. Someone being a prude is neither here nor there. Rather, this is a case of Doctor Who becoming something this person doesn't want it to be. And that's fair enough. It's stopped being the show that person likes because of this aspect.
 
Bones hit it exactly right. She's neither that big a prude, nor religious. She just objects to the direction the shows gone. In her opinion, DW is supposed to be a childrens show, and to quote "Moffet is turning the Doctor into James Bond." Unfortunately she's not the sort of person you argue with once shes got her mind set.

In some respects she does have a point. We've had Amy, Rose, Martha, River, Mdm De Pompedour(sp?), all having a thing for the Doctor. Enough already! I've said it before elsewhere, but like the Daleks, they've just gone to that well way too often.

And in reference to what someone said earlier, yes I would like the Doctor to be more like Mr Spock and less like Capt Kirk.

And yet again, I can dislike a plot point while still enjoying the show.
 
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Well, you're doing it again. Where you make assumptions about someone because of how they view the show. Someone being a prude is neither here nor there. Rather, this is a case of Doctor Who becoming something this person doesn't want it to be. And that's fair enough. It's stopped being the show that person likes because of this aspect.

Exactly what I said. It's best she stay in a comparatively safe/clean media environment (i.e. the Christian channels), because compared to the rest of television, she's going to be hard-pressed to find something written as tamely as Who. I'm not judging her for it. I am simply stating the fact that she made the right decision of leaving it. :techman:

Also, given that she wants it to stay a "children's show" (it IS for the entire family, so I'm told) seems strange for someone I can only assume is an adult. But, whatever. We all float our boats in different ways.

Oh and btw Bones, of everyone here, I've genuinely been your supporter. So, please stop singling me out as picking on you. It's insulting... :rolleyes:
 
Oh and btw Bones, of everyone here, I've genuinely been your supporter. So, please stop singling me out as picking on you. It's insulting... :rolleyes:
I'm not. I'm just saying, you're jumping to the same conclusion again, and pointing out the flaw in that logic. As Cutter John said, her objection to this new aspect in new Who is to do with it changing from the show she used to like into something she'd rather it wasn't. Which is roughly analogous to my feelings on it. But to then jump to conclusions about that person's character or lifestyle or to assume it's based on moral outrage is logically fallacious, and shouldn't be used to immediately dismiss their viewpoint.
 
I have to agree with Bones' friend. The idea of having a companion attracted to the Doctor was cute with Rose until Rose became irrationally possessive. It got tired with poor Martha. With Amy, it's becoming a sad joke. What's wrong with a companion who distrusts the doctor or hates him completely. I blame the fact that RTD and Moffet all came from dramatic TV (aka soap operas) where this kind of relationship is a staple. As for the "children", kids know what snogging is ("Harry Potter"/"Twilight") and it isn't going to damage them for seeing characters kiss.
 
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