I didn't mind the way the Doctor's "death" was resolved. Although the fanboy in me had secretly hoped Eleven would complete the great deception with a line like: "Alright, just one last thing to take care of..." and then BAM! Self-triggered regeneration.
32X13 The Wedding of River Song (Grading/Discussion) SPOILERS
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That would make most sense. The question is asked on the fields of Tranzalore. The Doctor tells River.
Considering the Doctor obliterated his own race just to eliminate the Daleks, what he did to the Dalek here is insignificant in comparison.
By changing his name. He now calls himself Inspector Spacetime.
I love Abed!!!!!
Probably River that asks the question (seeing as at that moment no living creature is suppose to be able to lie) and for some reason it kicks over 11 regeneration after he answers.
Hmmm....So if it really is as simple as what his name is, that must mean, that somehow telling River his name, causes her to do something dangerous to those who wanted to shut the Doctor up so bad, they kidnapped a baby (practically from the womb) to raise it with the Obsession to kill the Doctor.
Self Fulfilling Shakespearian Prophecy?
I'm not confident it's as simple as his name (And I've always wondered what the heck Cartmel Master Plan was) but, if it is, it sure could fit into that Master Plan.
Self Fulfilling Shakespearian Prophecy?
I'm not confident it's as simple as his name (And I've always wondered what the heck Cartmel Master Plan was) but, if it is, it sure could fit into that Master Plan.
Depends on who (no pun) he really is.
For some reason the Doctor's real identity has been scrubbed from history-- either by the Timelords or the Doctor himself. So the question is less a matter of "who" but of "Why"?
I would also add that the Dalek isn't the machine it goes in. The eye stalk isn't part of its real body.
Can't believe you're the only one I've seen agree with me so far on this. Copying from another thread, here's the exchange from Let's Kill Hitler:
Doctor: Find her. Find River Song, and tell her something from me.
River: Tell her what?
*Doctor whispers something in her ear*
River: Well I'm sure she knows.
*Doctor dies*
It would certainly fit with the whole "only one time he could ever tell someone his name" thing (when he's really dying).
Bleeding Cool suggested that the Dalek had already been crippled by Abslom Daak and his chainsword, and the Doctor simply took advantage of the opportunity to use the dying Dalek to get some intel.
LOL! I assume that was a joke (the second one, that is). Bobby in the shower wasn't a finale, it was a season premiere, and to this day it's ridiculed. Who Shot JR was not acclaimed as an episode - but as a single moment (does anyone remember what happened in that episode before the guy was shot?), and more people were interested in the resolution which happened mid-season. (And lots of people hated it when they found out.)
The same can be said for Best of Both Worlds Part 1. Do people like the episode or do people simply like the shocking ending? Also, the reason that episode is remembered well is not because of the episode itself, but the fact fans spent the summer speculating as to whether Stewart was leaving the series or becoming the villain. It was not made clear at the time what was happening (no Internet, remember). And the resolution was what kicked things into high gear. Personally, I don't think BoBW Part 1 was that great shakes of an episode. It took off when Locutus appeared, and Part 2 kicked ass.
Funnily enough, re-reading what I just wrote regarding the speculation, we actually are seeing that with Doctor Who this season. Are Amy and Rory returning (or if so, how?), will we see River again? and what exactly is the Doctor going to do now that he's "gone underground"? There's even a few folks posting to blogs the question as to whether the series is even continuing (only to have folks point out the Series 7 renewal and the Christmas special). Even in this board we had a thread where someone was speculating as to whether TPTB were planning for not only Confidential but DW itself to end on Saturday.
Alex
Ha! Awesome. Love it.
Sorry to contradict you, but ... you're wrong.
Patrick Duffy left at the end of the 84-85 season. The character was run over by a car driven by his sister-in-law Katherine. Larry Hagman persuaded Patrick to return the following year, and he did - in the May 1986 cliffhanger episode.
Patrick and Victoria shot their scenes separately. She didn't know what she was reacting to in her scene. Patrick was brought in later with another film crew, who believed they were filming a soap commercial.
The season was revealed to have been just Victoria's dream ... but there was a problem. Knots Landing. (technically, KL was created first and Dallas was a spin-off of that, but Dallas aired first, so KL is thought of as a spin-off of Dallas) ... Head hurt yet? It gets better.
In Knots Landing, which continued the storyline of Bobby's death, he stayed dead. So KL now has a separate continuity from Dallas.
Parallel Universe! Alternative Time line!
My god. My mom WAS a science fiction fan. She just didn't know it!
sorry your going to have to explain that one again.
Feel free to use really small words, I may need it, how would Bobby not being dead effect on KL?
Dallas and KL are related. Bobby and JR Ewing from Dallas are brothers of Gary Ewing on KL.
If I remember right, Gary went to Bobby's funeral on Dallas, and referenced his brother's death in KL a few times.
That entire year on Dallas was later declared to be just her dream. But it wasn't on KL ... they separated continuities there, so now they exist in parallel universes. In one, Bobby died. In the other, he didn't.
ok i got it now, thanks for explaining that.
I actually wonder if Torchwood: Miracle Day exisits in a parallel universe to the main Whoverse.
Does that mean there is a parallel universe of EastEnders where Dirty Den stayed dead, and never returned to the show?
That must be the one from Dimensions in Time.
But was the whole year declared a dream? Or just Pam's stuff? I thought some of the events that happened still happened.
Edited to add: just checked Wiki. Yep. All of it a dream. Holy shit, she's got a very fertile imagination. Kudos to the writers, a gutsy fucking move.
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