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2x13 - Alliances

Well in last weeks episode Telford was in the stone room at the Pentagon, only hours after ariving by the gate. So he could have flew quickly there, or got 'beamed' there or the gate is at the pentagon. No evidence either way.

There might also be a third set of stones at the SGC.
 
The largest nuclear bomb to be detonated was the Tsar Bomba. It was a Soviet Hydrogen bomb that was intended to produce a blast of 100 megatons. The blast size was reduced to 50 megatons to reduce fallout. Most of the fallout would have fallen on Soviet territory. So the Lucian bomb would have been 40% more powerful than the largest Earth bomb detonated in real life.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsar_Bomba

Here is a portion of the article about the blast damage:
"All buildings in the village of Severny (both wooden and brick), located 55 kilometres (34 mi) from ground zero, were completely destroyed. In districts hundreds of kilometers from ground zero, wooden houses were destroyed, and stone ones lost their roofs, windows and doors; and radio communications were interrupted for almost one hour. One participant in the test saw a bright flash through dark goggles and felt the effects of a thermal pulse even at a distance of 270 kilometres (170 mi). The heat from the explosion could have caused third-degree burns 100 km (62 miles) away from ground zero. A shock wave was observed in the air at Dickson settlement 700 kilometres (430 mi) away; windowpanes were partially broken to distances of 900 kilometres (560 mi). Atmospheric focusing caused blast damage at even greater distances, breaking windows in Norway and Finland. The seismic shock created by the detonation was measurable even on its third passage around the Earth.[7] Its seismic body wave magnitude was about 5 to 5.25.[6] The energy yield was around 7.1 on the Richter scale but, since the bomb was detonated in air rather than underground, most of the energy was not converted to seismic waves. The TNT equivalent of the 50 MT test could be represented by a cube of TNT 312 metres on a side, approximately the height of the Eiffel Tower."-From the Tsar Bomba Wikipedia article.
 
I haven't been reading spoilers or anything, but I suppose the bomb we saw in this episode doesn't have to be the only one planted on Earth. Maybe they did hit lots of targets. The end of the episode doesn't even reveal whether or not the bomb we saw was defused.
 
It says something about this show when an episode set mostly on Earth is more interesting than what's happening on Destiny. Not the first time this has happened, either.

I thought it was pretty good, overall. The only part I didn't care for was when Wray and Greer started their bickering while Evans was trying to make them shut up, then that whole thing where he pulled a knife. It was like someone else wrote that part of the episode, it was just grating. The rest was pretty decent, though.
 
The IOA and all the Earth governments involved in the Stargate program would never allow an asset as great as Atlantis to leave Earth. It makes no sense to take Atlantis back to the Pegasus galaxy. They don't need Atlantis there to rage war with the Wraith (which at this point Earth really doesn't even need to worry about). They can build a base on a planet there if they need one, and use Deadalus class ships to get there and fight the war if they want to, they don't need Atlantis itself there.

It is too great of an asset on Earth, they wouldn't just let it fly away to another galaxy after finally getting it home. You don't just send the greatest city/ship ever built by the Ancients with all its technology and database of information millions of light years away after you just got it home, heh. The goal of that project was to find the lost city of the Ancients, and they not only found it, but brought it home, after that, the project or mission is over. Now its up to the researchers to study it on Earth and possibly use it as a command base on Earth.

What they need is a third party to remove Atlantis from Earth....like the knox
 
Gosh, you guys are tough. If this were the dark days of 1986, or even 1976, most of the outspoken critics here would be lauding this show as the greatest thing they've ever seen. I mean, we've seen MUCH worse shows than this, but the degree of nitpicking here is phenomenal. SGU has it's flaws, but, according to this board, it's one of the worst productions ever. Yeah, maybe space-based scifi needs to take a break for a few years. There have been such shows on continuously since TNG went on the air in Oct, 1987. I fear an entire generation has become mighty spoiled with the availability of quality scifi on TV. If "Blood and Chrome" doesn't get picked up, we'll be back to 1986 again and hopefully a wee bit of appreciation and tolerance will grow back.
(steps off soapbox)
 
Gosh, you guys are tough. If this were the dark days of 1986, or even 1976, most of the outspoken critics here would be lauding this show as the greatest thing they've ever seen. I mean, we've seen MUCH worse shows than this, but the degree of nitpicking here is phenomenal. SGU has it's flaws, but, according to this board, it's one of the worst productions ever. Yeah, maybe space-based scifi needs to take a break for a few years. There have been such shows on continuously since TNG went on the air in Oct, 1987. I fear an entire generation has become mighty spoiled with the availability of quality scifi on TV. If "Blood and Chrome" doesn't get picked up, we'll be back to 1986 again and hopefully a wee bit of appreciation and tolerance will grow back.
(steps off soapbox)
The thing is that standards are an ever changing thing and since many people tend up adjust their standards upwards whenever they encounter works that blow them out of the water, it's not surprising that lots of people tend to critical when things fail to meet those standards.

Plus the producers were bragging about how this would be a darker, more character driven piece that was going to light years ahead of the other shows in terms of writing and they didn't really deliver on that promise.
 
It is hard to ignore that S1 of SGU was slow and boring, thats just a fact. There were some GREAT episodes along the way, but on the whole, it really hasn't picked up until S2. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to grab enough people to keep it on the air /shrug
 
It is hard to ignore that S1 of SGU was slow and boring, thats just a fact. There were some GREAT episodes along the way, but on the whole, it really hasn't picked up until S2. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to grab enough people to keep it on the air /shrug

That's an opinion and I don't think it holds up, if the show truely was meant as a five season storyline the first season would be used to establish the characters and their situation much the same way as say Babylon 5's first season. The first season I think holds up pretty well as a set up for the rest of the series, had we been able to see the rest of the show I think the frst sesaon would be seen in a different light.
 
I mean, we've seen MUCH worse shows than this,

We've also seen MUCH better.

if the show truely was meant as a five season storyline

The actual line was that it was a five year story which could be told in one year. Personally, I think they should have told that story in the one year they claimed it could be done. It might have grabbed people's interest, brought in some ratings. Milking the show in this manner, well...
 
Count me as one who enjoyed the slow pace of season one. I'm sad it's cancelled, will probably forget about it in six months, but it was a show I have enjoyed watching. Never loved it enough to jump into these threads and try and defend it, but I can't be the only one just watching and finding it entertaining and nothing more. Clearly there aren't enough people who share my opinion to keep it on the air.
 
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Plus the producers were bragging about how this would be a darker, more character driven piece that was going to light years ahead of the other shows in terms of writing and they didn't really deliver on that promise.[/QUOTE]

I didn't read what the producers said before this show went on the air. I just wanted to be moderately entertained with a space-based scifi show and I was. Soon, however, I'll have to be entertained by reruns of Trek, SG1, B5, et al. At least there will be new Dr. Who shows on BBCA occasionally. Funny, I got into Who in '76 because I was starving for Sci Fi on TV and that's about all there was that was new. Looks like we've made one big circle.
 
Honestly, I wouldn't have minded the slow pace if the stories had been a bit more engaging and the characters weren't dumb/useless most of the time (aside from Rush, the only consistently competent and productive member of the crew). Honestly, when the most exciting action sequences of the first season are Robert Carlyle strangling a CGI alien and him stabbing a woman with a screwdriver before whacking two guys with a pipe, you've got some problems.
 
It is hard to ignore that S1 of SGU was slow and boring, thats just a fact. There were some GREAT episodes along the way, but on the whole, it really hasn't picked up until S2. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to grab enough people to keep it on the air /shrug

That's an opinion and I don't think it holds up, if the show truely was meant as a five season storyline the first season would be used to establish the characters and their situation much the same way as say Babylon 5's first season. The first season I think holds up pretty well as a set up for the rest of the series, had we been able to see the rest of the show I think the frst sesaon would be seen in a different light.

The facts of the viewership holds up, can't deny the numbers, people just lost interest /shrug

It got canceled for a reason, I didn't want it to get canceled, I did my part and watched each episode, but it is what it is, people lost interest and stopped watching.
 
It is hard to ignore that S1 of SGU was slow and boring, thats just a fact. There were some GREAT episodes along the way, but on the whole, it really hasn't picked up until S2. Unfortunately, it wasn't enough to grab enough people to keep it on the air /shrug

That's an opinion and I don't think it holds up, if the show truely was meant as a five season storyline the first season would be used to establish the characters and their situation much the same way as say Babylon 5's first season. The first season I think holds up pretty well as a set up for the rest of the series, had we been able to see the rest of the show I think the frst sesaon would be seen in a different light.

The facts of the viewership holds up, can't deny the numbers, people just lost interest /shrug

It got canceled for a reason, I didn't want it to get canceled, I did my part and watched each episode, but it is what it is, people lost interest and stopped watching.

That's the fate of almost all TV shows including SG1 and Atlantis, so there's really nothing different about what happened to Universe.
 
SG-1 held for 10 years, SGA for 5 (and would have gone further) SGU couldn't even hold 2 seasons, so definitely a big difference.
 
SG-1 held for 10 years, SGA for 5 (and would have gone further) SGU couldn't even hold 2 seasons, so definitely a big difference.

By that logic The Prisoner and Firefly sucks and Baywatch was one the best shows on the air since it had 11 seasons. I don't think it matters how long or short a show's time is on the air once the ratings fall off they get cancelled. Stargate as a franchise had 14 years on TV and the network did move Universe around which didn't help matters. As with Star Trek, Stargate will get it's rest and come back or not.
 
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