24: Live Another Day. Discussion Thread. (Spoilers)

[Aldo]

Wayne Palmer was Secretary of State for his brothers Presidency after Mike Novic was let go.

Personally I really enjoyed Logan. He's a slimy bastard who played up the fact that he was incompetent to hide the fact that he was really a weasel. His continued pleas of "It was all for the country" are extremely believable and I think deep down he was trying to do the right thing, but it got out of control.

 

[urbandefault]

Wayne Palmer was Secretary of State for his brothers Presidency after Mike Novic was let go.

Personally I really enjoyed Logan. He's a slimy bastard who played up the fact that he was incompetent to hide the fact that he was really a weasel. His continued pleas of "It was all for the country" are extremely believable and I think deep down he was trying to do the right thing, but it got out of control.

Logan was the epitome of the slimeball you love to hate. It's been a long time since I've seen a sleazier character.

Gregory Itzin was equally as sleazy on Firefly ("Jaynestown"). Too bad he didnt get more screen time.

 

[Aldo]

^^^It's been so long since I've done a run through of Firefly I totally forgot that he was in it! Thanks for pointing it out, and you're right. He was incredibly sleazy there too

I also liked Logan's brief role in Season 6. It wasn't enough to redeem him, but whenever he sizzled whenever he was onscreen.

 

[Danny99]

A question that's been bothering me:

Do people want to see Jack Bauer's story end in a Russian prison, metaphorically atoning for sins or do people want to see his story end coming home and being with his family?

Which is more satisfying a conclusion for his character?

 

[LeadHead]

I'd prefer an ending that gives some hope for his future even if it didn't involve him reconnecting with his family.

I didn't see it as atoning for his sins as much as it was him doing the only thing he could do so he could live with himself. He's left so many behind, but he always did everything he could to save them.

 

[urbandefault]

A question that's been bothering me:

Do people want to see Jack Bauer's story end in a Russian prison, metaphorically atoning for sins or do people want to see his story end coming home and being with his family?

Which is more satisfying a conclusion for his character?

I'd prefer an ending that gives some hope for his future even if it didn't involve him reconnecting with his family.

I didn't see it as atoning for his sins as much as it was him doing the only thing he could do so he could live with himself. He's left so many behind, but he always did everything he could to save them.

Sacrificing himself to save Chloe, his best (and only) friend, is completely in character. But I bet he'll find a way to escape.

Jack Bauer does not give up, and he never gives in. He'd die first.

 

[Trekker4747]

Wayne Palmer becoming President is a bit of a stretch. First of all, consider the toxic political environment that *we* live in. Now, compound that by everything that happened in 24's universe between David Palmer and when Wayne Palmer would have went up for election and the multiply THAT by everything that happened concerning Wayne during the events of Season 3.

You'd think he'd be pretty much unelectable considering he was in someway connected (regardless of how much is known in the wake of Keeler's death/incapacitation) with the death of the ex-wife of a former President who was his brother, the death of the wife of a major campaign contributor to David's camp who herself is in someway connected to the death of THAT man.

You can't tell me there wasn't still a lot of cover-up and tom-foolery going on after the events of Season 3's day considering there's three deaths all centered around David Palmer in some manner, all happening on the same day suspicious news came out about David Palmer's current girlfriend AND the same day (or close to it) he resigned his re-election campaign just a month or two before the election.

The Republicans would have a field-day with all of this. Wayne Plamer should have been text-book unelectable. Not to mention I don't think Wayne even had the political clout or experience to even run!

 

[urbandefault]

Wayne Palmer becoming President is a bit of a stretch. First of all, consider the toxic political environment that *we* live in. Now, compound that by everything that happened in 24's universe between David Palmer and when Wayne Palmer would have went up for election and the multiply THAT by everything that happened concerning Wayne during the events of Season 3.

You'd think he'd be pretty much unelectable considering he was in someway connected (regardless of how much is known in the wake of Keeler's death/incapacitation) with the death of the ex-wife of a former President who was his brother, the death of the wife of a major campaign contributor to David's camp who herself is in someway connected to the death of THAT man.

You can't tell me there wasn't still a lot of cover-up and tom-foolery going on after the events of Season 3's day considering there's three deaths all centered around David Palmer in some manner, all happening on the same day suspicious news came out about David Palmer's current girlfriend AND the same day (or close to it) he resigned his re-election campaign just a month or two before the election.

The Republicans would have a field-day with all of this. Wayne Plamer should have been text-book unelectable. Not to mention I don't think Wayne even had the political clout or experience to even run!

Considering that it's fiction, I don't think it matters in real world terms. We don't know much detail about either Palmer's positions and policies outside of what was shown onscreen.

But as a conservative voter, I liked David Palmer. I know a lot of others who think like I do who felt the same way. He came across as an honorable man.

In real world terms, I would not under any circumstances vote for Charles Logan.

 

[Trekker4747]

In real world terms, I would not under any circumstances vote for Charles Logan.

Well, you wouldn't have had a choice. Logan was never elected into office.

 

[Mr Pointy Ears]

The way 24 ended,they left it open for a future series.

 

[Captrek]

I bet he'll find a way to escape.

I don't think he'll escape just to save himself. He did assassinate Russia's Foreign Minister, after all. I think it's more likely, assuming there is a continuation, that he'll make a deal for his freedom when Russia needs his help. The only way he busts out is if he has to in order to save more innocent lives.

 

[urbandefault]

In real world terms, I would not under any circumstances vote for Charles Logan.

Well, you wouldn't have had a choice. Logan was never elected into office.

And he wasn't qualified in the first place. It reminds me of several VPs during my lifetime who were just a "heartbeat away" from the Big Chair, who had neither the spine nor the balls for it.

 

[Trekker4747]

In real world terms, I would not under any circumstances vote for Charles Logan.

Well, you wouldn't have had a choice. Logan was never elected into office.

And he wasn't qualified in the first place. It reminds me of several VPs during my lifetime who were just a "heartbeat away" from the Big Chair, who had neither the spine nor the balls for it.

Or almost-VPs. ()

 

[Cyke101]

Well, you wouldn't have had a choice. Logan was never elected into office.

And he wasn't qualified in the first place. It reminds me of several VPs during my lifetime who were just a "heartbeat away" from the Big Chair, who had neither the spine nor the balls for it.

Or almost-VPs. ()

Oh James Stockdale, our nation turned its lonely eyes to you...

 

[Enterprise is Great]

24: Live Another Day on Blu-ray and DVD September 30th

 

[Evil Twin]

And still no word on a complete series Blu-ray release. *sigh*

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I'm starting to think that a complete series blu-ray will never happen. Hopefully I'm wrong.

 

[Aldo]

Just read the transcript of the comic-con panel. Pretty disappointed, they didn't announce another season (I really thought they would) and they only vaguely talked about the possibility of a movie. While it was neat to hear Kiefer discuss how it was to film in London, overall it was just disappointing.

 

[Aragorn]

How's season 8 going for you, Aldo?

 

[Aldo]

I've not watched it for a few days as I've started an impromptu run through of Community. It's far easier to binge watch 3 or 4 episodes in a row of a half hour comedy than it is a drama like 24.

That's not to say I'm not enjoying season 8, because there's a lot I like about it. I'm actually halfway through it (or almost, episode 12 is next up) and am really eager to see where they go with some of threads they set up. What I'm most interested in is to see exactly what it is that Jack does that puts him on the run and eventually turning himself into the Russians at the end of Season 9.

I do have a complaint though: as fresh and interesting as I found the Washington DC setting of Season 7 to be, the New York setting for Season 8 feels really "been there, done that." It's probably because I've seen countless cop shows and other dramas set in the city that it feels so familiar to me.