24: Live Another Day. Discussion Thread. (Spoilers)

[Evil Twin]

^Yeah, I kind of felt the same way, although it's still a welcome change from L.A., which was getting pretty stale by the time season 6 rolled around.

I'm currently halfway through season 3 in my rewatch (Ramon Salazar just done gone blowed up). Been doing 6 episodes a night, which is quite an endurance test, especially since I'm insisting on listening to the commentary track on each disc, stretching it out even longer, although those sort of provide "breaks", as I'm having them play in the background while I do other stuff on the computer. I'm eager to get to seasons 4 and 5, since it's been ages since I've watched those. The last time I did a rewatch I only got through the first three seasons before giving up.

 

[Jax]

Been watching it over the last week and just finished...

WE NEED ANOTHER ONE Can't leave Jack like that. However saying it I thought it was well worth a watch and it made me realise how much I miss 24. I could of done without the double agents/tratior among them stuff as its been done to death and then some in 24 (Starbuck character in season 8 was just like really again).

I would love to watch another one though the 12 episode arc makes there little need for filler crap though I would like the timp jump to occur at the halfway point.

When Jack held that katana to Cheng's throat, I was waiting for Cheng to say "I'm not Japanese, you God damn racist!"

I love that made me weep!

 

[Aldo]

I got around to watching episodes 12 and 13 of Season 8. The notable events in those two episodes are Chloe going all Bauer on the NSA guy and Dana Walsh going all evil.

To comment on Chloe's shenanigans, once Renee told her to do "Whatever it takes" I just knew she was going to copy Bauer and pull a gun on the guys...and I was not disappointed! I love Chloe, she's my favorite character next to Jack, but I think that's true for a lot of fans.

 

[Evil Twin]

I just hit the midway point of season 4 myself. Driscoll finally left and Michelle just arrived. Hallelujah! Now I'm eagerly awaiting Logan, and Bill Buchanan, and Palmer, and Cheng, and Mandy, and Chloe's return... Good times ahead!

 

[Enterprise is Great]

I love Chloe, she's my favorite character next to Jack, but I think that's true for a lot of fans.

I think so too though I remember that when Chloe was first introduced that a lot of fans hated her and wished for her death. At some point, I don't remember when it was people started really liking her. When Chloe first showed up I disliked her a lot. Eventually I came around. I wish I could remember what made me start liking her.

 

[Aragorn]

I got around to watching episodes 12 and 13 of Season 8. The notable events in those two episodes are Chloe going all Bauer on the NSA guy and Dana Walsh going all evil.

Yeah, Evil Dana would've handled the white trash blackmailers quite differently, don't you think? Another instance of the writers coming up with a twist for the sake of a twist instead of planning it out.

I swear I read an interview somewhere where one of the showrunners was patting himself on the back for deciding to make a CTU operative a mole, but I could be wrong.

 

[Trekker4747]

I love Chloe, she's my favorite character next to Jack, but I think that's true for a lot of fans.

I think so too though I remember that when Chloe was first introduced that a lot of fans hated her and wished for her death. At some point, I don't remember when it was people started really liking her. When Chloe first showed up I disliked her a lot. Eventually I came around. I wish I could remember what made me start liking her.

I think when it was when Chloe should more reason than anyone else in the show by listening to Jack and doing the things he asked.

swear I read an interview somewhere where one of the showrunners was patting himself on the back for deciding to make a CTU operative a mole, but I could be wrong.

Yep, you're right. The producers were confused why audiences hated her so much (we hated her because she was pointless and her story with White-Trash Dicaprio was infuriating) but they felt they needed to capitalize on that so they pretty much just decided to make her mole.. In order to.... justify? The hate we had for her? I dunno, but if this show had a jump-the shark moment when it embraced the silliness and went for the finish-line then making Dana the mole "just 'cause" was the point when the show fucked that shark.

 

[Aldo]

I got around to watching episodes 12 and 13 of Season 8. The notable events in those two episodes are Chloe going all Bauer on the NSA guy and Dana Walsh going all evil.

Yeah, Evil Dana would've handled the white trash blackmailers quite differently, don't you think? Another instance of the writers coming up with a twist for the sake of a twist instead of planning it out.

You're probably right, I didn't give it too much thought at the time. It would have been nice to see it play out like it seemed to be intended originally, where it was just a women who kept digging herself into a deeper hole, which ended up in murder.

But this isn't dampening my enthusiasm for the second half of the season, there's still so much I enjoy about this season, including Anil Kapoor who is just stealing every single scene he is in.

 

[Samurai8472]

Almeida is back

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/26/24-live-another-day-tony-almeida-solitary-dvd/

 

[Captaindemotion]

Almeida is back

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/26/24-live-another-day-tony-almeida-solitary-dvd/

I saw this yesterday, it's really cool. Works as a self-contained clip to show what's become of Tony and to open the possibility of redemption for him, which many of us hoped for. But I really hope that it's opening up a possible storyline for the next season. Perhaps some threat arises that ties back to Jack and Tony's days in CTU and which only they can deal with, leading to their releases from their respective prisons. It'd be interesting to see how they'd get along now - particularly when Jack's behaviour at the end of S8 was a bit like Tony's in S7.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

^ Ah, you took his story about wanting to help as sincere. I went the more cynical route and thought he was trying to convince his jailers to put him in general population (rather than solitary) so that he could more easily escape.

Not that I think he's beyond redemption, mind you, I just think being a jailhouse snitch to prevent gang and mob wars seems a bit beneath Tony's story arc. He's got bigger fish to fry. I suspect he might have heard about Jack being captured and he wants to escape to go rescue him from the Russians, using his underworld contacts.

 

[Aldo]

After a a long hiatus from 24, I finally got around and finished Season 8 these last few days.

To work backwards a bit, since Jack was on the run at the start of 'Live Another Day' I was dreading the end of Season 8. Just because I thought it would be a downer with Jack going nuts. While he does go a little nuts in bringing everyone to justice, all through out he has his reasons, and no one who isn't guilty dies. So it was to my (quite pleasant) surprise that Season 8 ends on a somewhat (for this series at least) upbeat note, and also feels like it could be a series final as well: I'm guessing they knew they were being cancelled before they wrote the finale perhaps?

Overall I suppose I enjoyed Season 8 just about as much as the rest (except for Season 4, that's the only season I didn't really enjoy), it started out a little rough. Especially when they meandered about with the Russian mob. But once the device was acquired by the IRK members the show picked up.

Also, I didn't really care for Renee Walker this season, which is weird cause I loved her role in Season 7, I suppose I didn't get too attached this time around because I knew she was going to die. Well I didn't know for sure, but based on this show and how they deal with women who get close to Jack, I kind of figured it out

So, 9 seasons, one TV movie and a comic book mini-series later and I am all caught up. In the interim I'll probably pick up Live Another Die on Bluray and see that Tony clip. And eagerly anticipate a new season along with the rest of you guys here

 

[Claudia]

While he does go a little nuts in bringing everyone to justice, all through out he has his reasons, and no one who isn't guilty dies.

Wow, what a definition of "bringing to justice"...

For the record: Mine doesn't include people going on a killing spree, being judge, jury and executioner. What Jack did had nothing to do with "justice".

 

[Trekker4747]

I'm guessing they knew they were being cancelled before they wrote the finale perhaps?

They knew the series was ending and at the time they were expecting to get a theatrical movie in a couple years and idea that apparently could not be worked out which is why we got LAD.

 

[Aldo]

While he does go a little nuts in bringing everyone to justice, all through out he has his reasons, and no one who isn't guilty dies.

Wow, what a definition of "bringing to justice"...

For the record: Mine doesn't include people going on a killing spree, being judge, jury and executioner. What Jack did had nothing to do with "justice".

Jack's always been shown as someone who looks at the big picture when operating. The moment he knew the President was going to quietly sweep everything under the rug in order for her Peace Summit to move forward, Jack snapped. True, he did go off the rails and was really extreme, but not one person who didn't deserve to die, died. If this were real life I probably would be thinking differently, but this is the world of 24. So I'm cutting Jack some slack.

I'm guessing they knew they were being cancelled before they wrote the finale perhaps?

They knew the series was ending and at the time they were expecting to get a theatrical movie in a couple years and idea that apparently could not be worked out which is why we got LAD.

Well if the best they could come up with was a lame cross-over with Die Hard, than I'm glad they dropped those plans and did another season instead.

 

[Captaindemotion]

^ Ah, you took his story about wanting to help as sincere. I went the more cynical route and thought he was trying to convince his jailers to put him in general population (rather than solitary) so that he could more easily escape.

Not that I think he's beyond redemption, mind you, I just think being a jailhouse snitch to prevent gang and mob wars seems a bit beneath Tony's story arc. He's got bigger fish to fry. I suspect he might have heard about Jack being captured and he wants to escape to go rescue him from the Russians, using his underworld contacts.

Yeah, I took it as sincere. Tony was a good man who was driven demented by grief and went off the rails. I didn't like how they made him a bad guy, even if it made for great drama and I want him to be redeemed.

I think helping the authorities by being even a low-level snitch - which would be pretty dangerous for him, don't forget - is all he can do at this stage to work towards redemption and make up for what he did, so I think he's sincere.

It's possible he's planning to go rescue Jack but we don't know when this scene is set so he may not even have known about Jack being held by the Russians. I also tend to believe him when he said he knows he's going to die within those prison walls. I hope he doesn't, though!

 

[Trekker4747]

If this were real life I probably would be thinking differently, but this is the world of 24. So I'm cutting Jack some slack.

This is the mentality I watch(ed) the show with. I, personally and politically do not support the idea of rogue agents/officers doing what they think is right and then circumventing rules, laws, and Constitutional rights to accomplish them. That's not something I want the people charged with protecting me and my freedom to do?

It *IS* something I want Jack Bauer to do because he makes it fun to watch and, well, he's always right. So while I disapprove of a real-world interrogator torturing a suspect to get information since we don't have any proof that suspect is guilty of anything. I'm all for Jack shoving a damp towel down a man's throat in order to rip out his stomach lining, because Jack is never wrong.

 

[Aragorn]

It *IS* something I want Jack Bauer to do because he makes it fun to watch and, well, he's always right. So while I disapprove of a real-world interrogator torturing a suspect to get information since we don't have any proof that suspect is guilty of anything. I'm all for Jack shoving a damp towel down a man's throat in order to rip out his stomach lining, because Jack is never wrong.

Wasn't Audrey's husband innocent when Jack tortured him? He just happened to have a loose connection to the terrorists he didn't even know about.

 

[Aldo]

Yep. Jack apologized though

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Jack, apologize? Never thought something like THAT would happen.