24 - Day 8: 4:00PM - 8:00PM: Discussion and Spoilers

[Tom]

Maybe if we tweaked some dialouge:

Hastings: Dana, what do you hear?

Dana: Nothing but the rain.

Hastings: Then grab your gun and bring in the cat!

Where is Ron Moore when you need him. LOL then you have have the Coto - Braga and Moore team.

 

[Base_Delta_Zero]

I think that Annie Wersching (former FBI agent Renee Walker) is a great actress. She's brilliant when it comes to expressing Walker's barely-suppressed emotional turmoil. She does this without the need for tears and histrionics (although Walker doesn't succeed in holding back her tears all the time). She's terrific even in quiet, simple and mundane scenes, like last night when Walker and Chloe chatted in the elevator.

IMHO, this actress is better than Katee Sackhoff. Katee, watch your costar and learn. And for the record, Wersching's clearly better than January Jones, the blonde robot from Mad Men who somehow received a Golden Globe nomination this year.

All true. Wersching and Sutherland are the only really interesting things on this show now. I think they should make the whole season after the foiled assassination about Jack trying to save Renee. He's saved the world enough. Now he needs to focus on rescuing one person from the rage-filled doom spiral she's gearing up for.

Drop the interoffice politics, presidential treaty negotiations, philandering, double lives, etc., and focus the whole thing on Jack, Renee and the infiltration mission.

They didn't kill Asian Cop two scenes after allying with Jack and they didn't have Jack teleport across NYC to personally save President Hairdo, they actually let another character be heroic. The writers can change things up for the better when they try. They won't go the direction I outlined, but I can hope.

 

[firehawk12]

AsianCop is now my favourite 24 character. Almost like HispanicSubmariner from S5.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Good
Good
Good
Excellent thanks to Renee teaming up with Jack

Despite certain at this point irrelevant side-plots there is a certain tension maintained the whole time without resorting to big shocker moments like WMDs blowing up half of New York.
This time it's reasonable shocker moments with a big crater over at the UN and sawed of hands.

 

[DarthPipes]

I think that Annie Wersching (former FBI agent Renee Walker) is a great actress. She's brilliant when it comes to expressing Walker's barely-suppressed emotional turmoil. She does this without the need for tears and histrionics (although Walker doesn't succeed in holding back her tears all the time). She's terrific even in quiet, simple and mundane scenes, like last night when Walker and Chloe chatted in the elevator.

IMHO, this actress is better than Katee Sackhoff. Katee, watch your costar and learn. And for the record, Wersching's clearly better than January Jones, the blonde robot from Mad Men who somehow received a Golden Globe nomination this year.

Agreed. I said this last year but Cherry Jones got the Emmy nomination that Annie Wersching should have gotten last season. How could anyone watch 24 last year and not think that Renee dominated the show. She was terrific and still is.

I say Emmy nomination instead of Emmy award because I haven't seen the other shows to judge who is better.

Not too impressed with Freddie Prinze Jr. as Cole. We've seen too little of Cole (his heroics aside) to make a definitive judgment but Prinze strikes me as wooden in the role. I wish they had gone with his "Freddie" co-star Brian Austin Green. BAG proved he could play a badass on The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

 

[Neroon]

I know I'm liable to catch it for posting this, but .... SI.com had this link today:
The Women of 24…All of Them

 

[Tom]

I know I'm liable to catch it for posting this, but .... SI.com had this link today:
The Women of 24…All of Them

not all of them, where is cherry jones.. Bias to those over 50? LOL

 

[tomalak301]

I know I'm liable to catch it for posting this, but .... SI.com had this link today:
The Women of 24…All of Them

not all of them, where is cherry jones.. Bias to those over 50? LOL

To be honest, I think they were doing us all a favor.

 

[Bad Bishop]

I think that Annie Wersching (former FBI agent Renee Walker) is a great actress. She's brilliant when it comes to expressing Walker's barely-suppressed emotional turmoil. She does this without the need for tears or histrionics (although Walker doesn't succeed in holding back her tears all the time). She's terrific even in quiet, simple, mundane scenes, like last night when Walker and Chloe chatted in the elevator.

IMHO, this actress is better than Katee Sackhoff. Katee, watch your costar and learn. And for the record, Wersching's clearly better than January Jones, the blonde robot from Mad Men who somehow received a Golden Globe nomination this year.

Sackhoff was terrific as Starbuck, but she's failed to impress me so far as Dana Walsh. This probably has something to do with her character's personal story, which looks like it will be a big distraction to the A-Story. It also doesn't help that Sackhoff is ridiculously overdressed for a data analyst.

I don't want to be unfair to Sackhoff, but she's new to 24 and this time she's obviously not the alpha female. Maybe we need time to fully accept her in a less aggressive role.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

I know I'm liable to catch it for posting this, but .... SI.com had this link today:
The Women of 24…All of Them

not all of them, where is cherry jones.. Bias to those over 50? LOL

Here's a pic:

 

[Gil T.Azell]

I have Jacks kill count at 3.
1) The guy he hit with the fire axe
2) His buddy over the railing
3) Devros...

Did I miss anyone?

 

[StarshipDefiant]

I have Jacks kill count at 3.
1) The guy he hit with the fire axe
2) His buddy over the railing
3) Devros...

Did I miss anyone?

I think he got one of the shoots before one and two, was pretty sure there was multiple shooters? I could be wrong here...

 

[Aragorn]

There seemed to be an awful lot of establishing shots of NYC to emphasize the setting. Was last year like that?

 

[D Man]

^^Yeah I noticed that too, it was kind of like "ok, I get it, we're in New York this year." I don't recall tons of D.C. shots last year at all, at least not ones so conspicuous and numerous. At least the CTU Warp Drive SUVs continue to operate properly in their new city; from the UN to the CTU bunker barely even took a commercial break, same as from CTU all the way to Long Island City.

 

[Aragorn]

You know what would be funny? Since Jack is going undercover in the Russian mafia, if his new missions were to take Renee bowling, pretend to be gay on a dating site to make contact with and eliminate French Tom, and choose between killing Playboy and Dwayne.

 

[Trekker4747]

I have Jacks kill count at 3.
1) The guy he hit with the fire axe
2) His buddy over the railing
3) Devros...

Did I miss anyone?

That's all that I have, I may give the episodes another scan later on to see if any were missed.

You know what would be funny? Since Jack is going undercover in the Russian mafia, if his new missions were to take Renee bowling, pretend to be gay on a dating site to make contact with and eliminate French Tom, and choose between killing Playboy and Dwayne.

Heh. Yeah that would be kind of funny.

 

[Tom]

I have Jacks kill count at 3.
1) The guy he hit with the fire axe
2) His buddy over the railing
3) Devros...

Did I miss anyone?

You missed Jack killing Hastings ego! He got owned, big time.

 

[Top41]

I'm late to the game, but I thought the first two hours were good and the second two excellent. It's funny--after eight seasons, 24 understandably feels pretty familiar, and yet even as I'm like, oh, I've seen that before... I always get hooked in again! I do love this show.

Jack seems a little softer this season somehow. It's a nice change. I hope he does get to go back to LA at the end of this day--it's so nice to see him and Kim really getting along. Jack deserves a chance to have a family in the way he hasn't really since season one.

I love Katee Sackhoff, but her character's story feels like the Agent Cougar of this season. Wanna bet the scumbag guy is her abusive husband that she ran away from?

Love seeing Renee back! I really like her, and I'm curious about this dark turn her character has taken.

Chloe is as hilarious as ever.

A good start, I'm hooked.

 

[Trekker4747]

Something to point out real quick, according to the timeline I'm now following jack is 49. The Season 6 DVDs include a "debrief" series of webisodes in which Jack says his birthday is in February 1966. If it's 2015 in 24's universe that makes Jack 49. (And 53 if the series is in 2019 according to some interpetations of the timeline.)

Anyway, I got to thinking if everything Jack, CTU and the officals in 24's universe are doing is worth it. Look at what we've seen in just these two episodes where we see the robotic drones and CTU's constant monitoring of street cameras. Does this seem like the type of "future" or even "present" you want? It could be argued we're teetering on this as it is but it seems like the citizens of the US in 24's universe are living in an Orwelian 1984 nightmare. Facial recognition software hooked up to thousands of webcams in the city?! Yikes!

If we ever do get a movie, a ninth season, or something like that I think it's high-time Jack takes on the biggest challenge of all.

The US Government!

 

[Harvey]

24 would never do a story like that. It's too invested in Orwellian story devices to turn that idea on its head, especially now.

The world of 24 seems a lot like what London apparently is like now. Cameras everywhere.