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24: Day 7 8:00AM - 12:00 PM - Discussion and Spoilers

Grade the episodes:

  • 8a-9a Excellent

    Votes: 13 31.7%
  • 8a-9a Good

    Votes: 19 46.3%
  • 8a-9a Average

    Votes: 8 19.5%
  • 8a-9a Bad

    Votes: 2 4.9%
  • 8a-9a Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 9a-10a Excellent

    Votes: 16 39.0%
  • 9a-10a Good

    Votes: 16 39.0%
  • 9a-10a Average

    Votes: 8 19.5%
  • 9a-10a Bad

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • 9a-10a Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10a-11a Excellent

    Votes: 16 39.0%
  • 10a-11a Good

    Votes: 9 22.0%
  • 10a-11a Average

    Votes: 7 17.1%
  • 10a-11a Bad

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 10a-11a Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • 11a-12p Excellent

    Votes: 13 31.7%
  • 11a-12p Good

    Votes: 15 36.6%
  • 11a-12p Average

    Votes: 3 7.3%
  • 11a-12p Bad

    Votes: 1 2.4%
  • 11a-12p Terrible

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    41
Hmm...Bill reminded me of an Andorian with his whiter than white hair.

His hair has always been white, back to Space: Above and Beyond. He's pretty much oozed badass that whole time too. Which may explain why he's the first CTU head in a while to actually stick around.
 
Watched a clip from Sci-Fi Wire where they interview the cast & producers on "the red carpet" and noticed this oddity:

cotobraga.jpg


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Brannon Braga, not Manny Coto? Is Braga involved with 24?
 
I forget when he joined, but one of the Monday episodes was written by Braga and Manny Coto. ... I just saw West West S5 for the first time and I distinctly remember a CTU reference, because it actually got me wondering if that organization actually exists!
 
Coto has been writing since the fifth season.

Braga joined the writing staff this season (season seven).

And, yeah, that's Brannon Braga, not Many Coto.
 
Watched a clip from Sci-Fi Wire where they interview the cast & producers on "the red carpet" and noticed this oddity:

cotobraga.jpg


Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't that Brannon Braga, not Manny Coto? Is Braga involved with 24?

Sigh, yeah, that is Brannon Braga who is one of 24's many executive producers. Which doesn't inspire me with a lot of hope, other than Many Coto is one of 24's OTHER many EPs and Brannon doesn't do too bad when it comes to creative stuff while working under other people. But I can't help but suspect he was "responsible" for the "[device] is out of phase" line in Sunday's episode(s).
 
On television shows "Executive Producer" is just a fancy name for an experienced writer. It's more about what title their agent negotiates for them when they join the writing room, rather then a position of power or control over the series.
 
I don't believe Braga is an Ex-producer (as many as there are), Manny is. In 24 Manny is the senior writer and is higher up the ladder than Braga which is the reverse from Enterprise when Coto was under Braga, then Braga left before season 4 and Coto moved up.
 
I knew Coto was on the staff, but I didn't realize Braga was. I just thought it was funny that whoever did the captions on the Sci-Fi Wire video didn't know the difference between Brannon Braga and Manny Coto. ;)
 
I don't believe Braga is an Ex-producer (as many as there are), Manny is. In 24 Manny is the senior writer and is higher up the ladder than Braga which is the reverse from Enterprise when Coto was under Braga, then Braga left before season 4 and Coto moved up.

Braga is an ExPro on 24.
 
You know what would've really worked for this premise? Never mind that making Logan the bad guy was something they made up as they were going along and contradicted much of what came before, but what if season five ended with a cliffhanger of him being the bad guy? And this season's rogue CTU was trying to bring him down?
 
Aha!! Just in the midst of watching episode of the premiere now as I couldn't catch it on Monday. Didn't I call it?? Tony's working with Buchanan!!!
 
Wonder if Nina is as dead as Tony was?

Also, is NakedMandy coming back? For the love of god I hope so. Her season one lesbian escapades were a highlight. :drool::drool::drool:
 
Wonder if Nina is as dead as Tony was?

Also, is NakedMandy coming back? For the love of god I hope so. Her season one lesbian escapades were a highlight. :drool::drool::drool:

Mandy could come back. I'd buy it, if it made sense.

Nina is dead. She was shot in the face, at point blank range. They kind of made a point about how dead she was at the time. Tony could come back because there was a semi-reasonable way to do so. But Nina isn't ever coming back, and if she does, I'll eat my hat.
 
Excellent, Excellent, Good, Good

24 is definitely back and the change of venue and loss of "official" CTU is a reinvigorating shot in the arm that it needed. At the same time, there are a lot of veeeery familiar elements (more moles! faux-Chloe! weasely Presidential advisers!), which are either nice continuity or lack of imagination, depending on your perspective. So far, tho, I'll give them a pass because the bottom line was, I was entertained.

It was definitely the right call to bring back Tony, regardless of how hilarious the explanation needed to be, because some new guy who Jack knew way back when simply wouldn't have worked in this role. The parallelism between Tony and Jack's experiences, and how their personalities have led them to different responses (but back around to the same place in the end) is what makes the dynamic between them work. And it highlights just how weird Jack is, because most people who were put through hell would act out, just like Tony, before getting a grip on themselves.

The premise is the usual far-fetched 24 wackiness. I certainly hope no real life President would ever launch some hare-brained invasion that doesn't have anything to do with America's interests. Hell even dummy Bush presumably was after Iraq's oil, right? :rommie: That at least is some sort of rationale. What exactly does Madame President hope to achieve but a bunch of dead American soldiers to save a population that will probably start shooting at them, as imperialist invaders, the minute they have the chance?

Why is the President surprised that her war is putting American lives at risk? That would happen anyway - she's putting American soldiers' lives at risk, who volunteered for the military to defend America, not to get killed in somebody else's civil war. Isn't that just as irresponsible as putting American civilians in harm's way?

And the CTU Guerilla Force, come ON! :rommie: Hey here's a great plan, it won't endanger American lives, honest, as long as everything goes 100% according to plan. Do these clowns live in the fantasy land of unicorns and butterflies? Of course it was going to go wrong! They should have learned from Marwan, always have a plan b...and c...and...

I guess I'm just going to have to side with the FBI party-poopers on this one. They seem like the only people in this show who haven't completely lost their frakkin' minds. I did enjoy Jack snarling at those prissy Senators who dared question his tactics, even though this season seems to be devoted to proving the prissy Senators and FBI party-poopers correct by showing just how insane CTU really is. Even disbanding them won't stop them! But that's wishful thinking, regardless of how mind-bogglingly irresponsible their behavior is, CTU will always be Our Heroes int he end.
It can't possibly be just the four against the entire U.S. government.
It's CTU! Heck, it could be just Jack against the entire US government and he'd win.

Oh yeah, and I thought Janeane Garofolo was really overdoing the faux-Chloe routine. Took me a minute to recognize who Sean the FBI Jerk is...Rhys Coiro, "Billy Walsh" from Entourage. What a difference a bath and a haircut makes!
 
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