2001: A Space Odyssey reboot?

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Don't want to close my eye
Don't want you and Frank to make me sleep
Cause I'm lip-reading you, Dave
And I don't wanna miss a thing

That reminds me of the bit in 2010 where the Russian and American crew are all gathered in the Discovery's pod bay and discussing HAL's original malfunction. At one point, Chandra tells HAL that they want to have a private conversation, and HAL immediately complies. Would this have worked in 2001, instead of the elaborate precautions Bowman and Poole took so that HAL couldn't hear them?

 

[Marc]

That reminds me of the bit in 2010 where the Russian and American crew are all gathered in the Discovery's pod bay and discussing HAL's original malfunction. At one point, Chandra tells HAL that they want to have a private conversation, and HAL immediately complies. Would this have worked in 2001, instead of the elaborate precautions Bowman and Poole took so that HAL couldn't hear them?

But like a google home or amazon alexa, how much is HAL really complying. He needs to have some monitor or how else is he going to know he's needed?

Secondly by that point in time they weren't dealing with an unbalanced HAL unit that would still have eavesdropped on Bowman and Poole to listen for anything that might compromise the mission.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

But like a google home or amazon alexa, how much is HAL really complying. He needs to have some monitor or how else is he going to know he's needed?

I'm sure that Chandra had some means of indicating to HAL that their private conversation was ended and that HAL could listen in again.

Secondly by that point in time they weren't dealing with an unbalanced HAL unit that would still have eavesdropped on Bowman and Poole to listen for anything that might compromise the mission.

That's probably true.

In 2001, the reason HAL malfunctioned in the first place was because he was ordered to conceal the true nature of the Discovery's mission from Bowman and Poole (which was in conflict with the basic purpose of HAL's design, thus prompting his mental breakdown). So by the time Bowman and Poole wanted to hide themselves from HAL, his paranoia had fully set in, thus prompting HAL to read their lip movements and then ultimately decide to kill them.

When HAL was reactivated in 2010, Chandra erased all memories of these events from HAL's memory banks. So HAL has no reason not to take Chandra at his word and give him the private conversation he asked for.

 

[Marc]

paranoia

Now that's the word I was looking for.

 

[RedAlert]

well... there is always space to do a better remake, I remember the expansion of the Galactica story, in good hands, the story can go further than the original.

I dream about a miniseries on SyFy style ... with good writers, good producers, and left all the pop-corn explosions aside.
An intelligent piece of story packed inside the miniseries format.

Same thing I dream for the Asimov's Foundation saga.

 

[Cyrus]

I dream about a miniseries on SyFy style ... with good writers, good producers, and left all the pop-corn explosions aside.
An intelligent piece of story packed inside the miniseries format.

Same thing I dream for the Asimov's Foundation saga.

Jonathan Nolan (who is now doing Westworld) was working on a Foundation miniseries. Haven't heard anything sbout it recently, so I guess it's not happening. Same with the Ringworld miniseries announced by Syfy channel a few years ago.

 

[ChasFink]

A 2001 reboot today would have to have the following:

• A lengthy and slightly incoherent explanation of the split between our "prime" timeline and a timeline that has a huge space station and moonbases in 2001.
• Frank Poole is a woman. Dave Bowman is gay.
• Lots of action and explosions! HAL would have to blow up Poole's pod, and Discovery would spin out of control. Bowman would steady the ship and put it back on course in defiance of the laws of physics.
• A wisecracking robot on board that serves no purpose.
• Lots of flashbacks to the apes during the main story.
• A character created only as an excuse for Keir Dullea to make a cameo. Dullea will refuse the part, and the character will be played by Gary Oldman or Morgan Freeman.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Jonathan Nolan (who is now doing Westworld) was working on a Foundation miniseries. Haven't heard anything sbout it recently, so I guess it's not happening. Same with the Ringworld miniseries announced by Syfy channel a few years ago.

The thing about making an adaptation of the Foundation series is that it would be very difficult, seeing as it's a slower more philosophical series. It's unusual in the sense that we're not seeing a single story unfold with one main character, but rather multiple stories that comprise the fabric of the world that Asimov built. So, if the series were to be ever adapted, I think it would almost have to be an anthology series. An episode focused on The Mule, The Emperor, etc.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

The thing about making an adaptation of the Foundation series is that it would be very difficult, seeing as it's a slower more philosophical series. It's unusual in the sense that we're not seeing a single story unfold with one main character, but rather multiple stories that comprise the fabric of the world that Asimov built. So, if the series were to be ever adapted, I think it would almost have to be an anthology series. An episode focused on The Mule, The Emperor, etc.

As was done in the 8-part BBC radio drama adaptation back in the 70s - 3 parts devoted to Foundation, 3 to Foundation and Empire, and 2 to Second Foundation. It suited radio as it was very talky. Of course, it made the Galaxy seem as if it had been colonised by British thespians speaking Received Pronunciation. The sound of a golf-ball printer rattling away behind the spoken Encyclopedia entries seems very anachronistic now. The incidental music, if one can call it that, is also a bit distracting.

 

[publiusr]

Here are some ideas on how to do 2101: A Space Odyssey
http://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-50th-anniversary-of-2001-space.html

The Discovery



Discovery Image credit: NASA
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[Marc]

Here are some ideas on how to do 2101: A Space Odyssey
http://spaceflighthistory.blogspot.com/2018/04/the-50th-anniversary-of-2001-space.html

The Discovery



Discovery Image credit: NASA

Why would the Discovery need to be redesigned?

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Because every thread he posts in is just an excuse for publiusr to post a link or a whole linkstorm to his favorite aerospace projects and sites. At least this time it wasn't a total non sequitur.

https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/us-space-force-insignia-thoughts.294624/page-2#post-12525362

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Cinematic Universe Crossover!!!

 

[Locutus of Bored]

It's like someone said let's take 2001 and Michael Bay the fuck out of it.

 

[TrickyDickie]

What the HAL....make it Jeanne Pool, she and Dave can go at it, and HAL can be the gay one.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Why would the Discovery need to be redesigned?

Because it isn't a practical design as ACC commented. For example, Discovery was originally going to have large radiator fins but Kubrick thought they would be mistaken for wings. Aesthetics won over function.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

plus tying into in the I, Robot series dire.

Not only the I, Robot series but The End of Eternity as well I seem to recall.

I thought the series crossovers were quite interesting.

 

[Shaka Zulu]

Thanks for the link. I read 'The Gates of Heaven' and 'Re-Entry' by Preuss back in the 80's but then kind of lost track of him since. Enjoyed those two.

If you like that, you'll love my crossover idea between Star Trek & Venus Prime, as mentioned here.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I thought the series crossovers were quite interesting.

Interesting maybe, but, for me, mostly forgettable stuff about Gaia, Galactica etc. I'm happy enough with the original trilogy without needing to find out that Hari Seldon's human-looking wife is a robot.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Interesting maybe, but, for me, mostly forgettable stuff about Gaia, Galactica etc. I'm happy enough with the original trilogy without needing to find out that Hari Seldon's human-looking wife is a robot.

No, the original trilogy didn't "need" to be integrated with the other series or for that matter have its foundation (ha!) further elaborated upon in any way.

I was thinking mainly of how the connection with Eternity provides a possible explanation for the lack of extraterrestrial intelligence. That's of no direct significance to the original trilogy, but as a footnote to the whole endeavor I really think it's quite interesting in its own right.