2 million fewer viewers
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The ability to meter viewing habits has not, or not enough.
I just wanted to raise another point, obviously the BBC will be guided in the main by viewing figures, but would the AI factor into any decision re the show's future? The Magician's Apprentice got an AI of 84, which is no worse than series 8 (in fact better than a lot of them) although still down on 5/6/7a (the drop off really does seem to have coincided with Amy and Rory leaving, not sure if that's just coincidence though) and looking back its comparable with some of the early seasons as well.
My understanding is that even if these are down, they're still extremely healthy so would the BBC take that into account? "Fewer people are watching but those who are watching aren't enjoying it any less"?
As Diankra suggests, there seems to be an across the board drop off in viewing figures for live TV and at the end of the day large numbers are still watching and still enjoying so maybe we're worrying needlessly?
My understanding is that even if these are down, they're still extremely healthy so would the BBC take that into account? "Fewer people are watching but those who are watching aren't enjoying it any less"?
As Diankra suggests, there seems to be an across the board drop off in viewing figures for live TV and at the end of the day large numbers are still watching and still enjoying so maybe we're worrying needlessly?
But even when all those other viewing options are added in it's still going to be two million down; that's they key point.
DW's AIs have always been impressive since it returned and even with the slight downward trend it remains well above average.
Just to repeat, there's no suggestion at all that the series future on Television is in any danger at present (beyond the danger of another series spread out over two years thanks to Moffat). The question is more, will the BBC decide that time has come to shake things up and see if they can get the ratings back up again.
Problem with AIs is they link into audience: if more people watch, there will be more who're Mehh, if fewer watch they'll be more supportive.
Season 23 is a great example of this: the AI is lowest when the ratings are best (basically, Bonnie brought in a new audience for a week, but they didn't like it or come back).
^True, but a show with high AI figures even if ratings are a bit on the low side they could serve to keep the show on the air esp. on a network which doesn't have ads.
So those that are watching it saying we are liking our license fee spend in this manor. Poor ratings and poor AI figures would spell certain doom for a show.
So those that are watching it saying we are liking our license fee spend in this manor. Poor ratings and poor AI figures would spell certain doom for a show.
Just give Capaldi his time/moment on the air
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Then the BBC can bring back someone younger/maniac/gimmicky doctor and pair him with a cute companion
Ratings will surely go up
Apperantly the premiere was a huge success on BBC America and the highest rated season premiere to date for them:
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/the-magicians-apprentice-sets-us-ratings-record-76243.htm
http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/the-magicians-apprentice-sets-us-ratings-record-76243.htm
Just give Capaldi his time/moment on the air
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Then the BBC can bring back someone younger/maniac/gimmicky doctor and pair him with a cute companion
Ratings will surely go up
Given he's the oldest Doctor since Hartnell I think you could argue Capaldi is a gimmicky Doctor. And he has a cute companion! He might have put some people off but no more than when people stopped watching because DT left.
I like Capaldi at least as much as I liked Tennant or Eccleston, I don't love him the way I loved Smith but that's the trouble with regeneration
they do seem to be making him slightly more user friendly (and I never thought he was that grumpy anyway) but I doubt the drop off is solely down to him, there just seems to be a general decline in viewing figures.Capaldi was at the Radio Times Festival today and was once again talking like someone who doesn't expect to be challenging the record for length of time on the series. (Frank Skinner diving in where other fear to tread again.) The problem is it's hard to tell if there's some deeper meaning to his comments or if he's just being Scottish.
And if he is going sooner rather than later is this his decision or the BBC's? Or it could be a combination of the two. You know I can't help recalling that Mirror story after he got the gig which said he was being utilised as a very traditional place-holder Doctor to pave the way for a radical new Doctor. I'm still not entirely sure the BBC would go to the trouble of hiring an actor to allow the show to just tick over until their preferred option was available, but you never know I guess...
It'd be nice if he did three series, but I think the bare minimum any actor should do is two and at least if he does regenerate at Christmas he's got more than twice the screentime of the Ninth Doctor.
I'd still like a midseason regeneration, though I appreciate this would pose certain production problems...unless series 10 really is going to be a split season?
It'd be nice if he did three series, but I think the bare minimum any actor should do is two and at least if he does regenerate at Christmas he's got more than twice the screentime of the Ninth Doctor.
I'd still like a midseason regeneration, though I appreciate this would pose certain production problems...unless series 10 really is going to be a split season?
1. Doctor Who is now in its 10th season, fatigue is always going to happen especially with an older Doctor that I feel some young fans don't feel excited about but adults do.
2. Ratings are down all across the board, X Factor on ITV is struggling and far less people watch live TV these days.
3. Overnight ratings are hardly anywhere near accurate.
4. BBC couldn't care less about domestic ratings, what they care about is audience share more than anything and Doctor Who always gets a huge split of that.
5. Internationally the show is more popular than ever and recently broke its BBC America record I believe.
Doctor Who is still must see TV in the UK for many, probably 6-7 million and be it live, I Player or Digitally recorded the BBC won't care.
2. Ratings are down all across the board, X Factor on ITV is struggling and far less people watch live TV these days.
3. Overnight ratings are hardly anywhere near accurate.
4. BBC couldn't care less about domestic ratings, what they care about is audience share more than anything and Doctor Who always gets a huge split of that.
5. Internationally the show is more popular than ever and recently broke its BBC America record I believe.
Doctor Who is still must see TV in the UK for many, probably 6-7 million and be it live, I Player or Digitally recorded the BBC won't care.
I'll just go out on a limb and say that Capaldi will last Moffat's exit, which I think be after next year.
Inveterate gambler or big boys in little shorts?
