1899 (new series from creators of Dark) ***SPOILERS***

[the G-man]

I disagree with that mentality. They are providing a service that the customer pays for and the customer should not feel indebted to "binge" a show just because they want to see it renewed. Netflix needs to rethink their business model if they don't want to sink their own ship. I'd suggest a month out campaign where many people opt out of the service on the same day for a two week or even a month would be a more effective way of speaking out.

The binge model is simply not sustainable any longer.
People will sign up for a month to watch "Stranger Things" or "Wednesday" and then cancel.
Furthermore, the binge model doesn't give a quality show time to build word of mouth or become a "water cooler" show. People watch it over a weekend and forget about it.
If something like "Seinfeld" had been released on "Netflix" it wouldn't have made it to a second season.

 

[Owain Taggart]

I disagree with that mentality. They are providing a service that the customer pays for and the customer should not feel indebted to "binge" a show just because they want to see it renewed.

Yeah, I find the whole idea and mentality of binging is at odds with the idea that a streaming service allows you to watch shows whenever you want. That's the way the streaming model was sold in the beginning. If there's an added urgency to it, then we're really no better off than we were with Network TV. Especially when there's even more programming to get through.

I'm always watching something, and on my own time, and I always find I have to make other series wait their turn. If I have to binge something just to make sure it doesn't fail, then that isn't nearly as fun for me as a viewer.

 

[theenglish]

The binge model is simply not sustainable any longer.
People will sign up for a month to watch "Stranger Things" or "Wednesday" and then cancel.
Furthermore, the binge model doesn't give a quality show time to build word of mouth or become a "water cooler" show. People watch it over a weekend and forget about it.
If something like "Seinfeld" had been released on "Netflix" it wouldn't have made it to a second season.

For that matter, neither would Stranger Things.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

For that matter, neither would Stranger Things.

Could you explain this, I'm not getting it?

 

[thribs]

Oh well. At least we still have 1883 and 1923.

 

[Dee1891]

The binge model is simply not sustainable any longer.
People will sign up for a month to watch "Stranger Things" or "Wednesday" and then cancel.
Furthermore, the binge model doesn't give a quality show time to build word of mouth or become a "water cooler" show. People watch it over a weekend and forget about it.
If something like "Seinfeld" had been released on "Netflix" it wouldn't have made it to a second season.

I never do "binge watching" for the shows on Netflix. I take my time with them, usually viewing each episode, once a week. Just because all episodes for one season or one limited series are released at once, doesn't mean they have to be binge watched.

 

[theenglish]

I never do "binge watching" for the shows on Netflix. I take my time with them, usually viewing each episode, once a week. Just because all episodes for one season or one limited series are released at once, doesn't mean they have to be binge watched.

Me too. I like watching several shows at the same time, usually an episode or two a week unless I'm on vacation.

Oh well. At least we still have 1883 and 1923.

If Stranger Things were released today, it would arrive in such a competitive environment that I can't imagine it becoming a big hit quickly. I'm not even sure how long it took to become a cultural thing back when it first came out. Based on Netflix's current criteria I could very well see it getting canned after a single season because it just wouldn't get the immediate numbers that they demand.

 

[the G-man]

I never do "binge watching" for the shows on Netflix. I take my time with them, usually viewing each episode, once a week. Just because all episodes for one season or one limited series are released at once, doesn't mean they have to be binge watched.

I don't either. However the general "belief" that everyone binges these things leads to the entire series being spoiled (by the media and discussion boards) within hours of the show coming out.
Part of the fun, for me at least, of watching shows is discussing them with other viewers as they unfold. That's very difficult if the entire show was vomited up one day and binged to the end by half the audience or more.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

If Stranger Things were released today, it would arrive in such a competitive environment that I can't imagine it becoming a big hit quickly. I'm not even sure how long it took to become a cultural thing back when it first came out. Based on Netflix's current criteria I could very well see it getting canned after a single season because it just wouldn't get the immediate numbers that they demand.

It did do pretty well and pretty quickly but exact numbers at the time are spotty and can't really say for sure how it would fare today's more competitive environment.
https://www.businessinsider.com/stranger-things-netflix-ratings-2016-8

 

[shapeshifter]

I stopped watching season 1 at episode 7 because the Watcher said there were

Spoiler: two options

she either gives him the key and it all ends there or she doesn't and they go into the loop again.

If season 2 never happens her choice was number 1, The End.

But if S2 does eventually somehow happen, she chose option 2. Then episode 8 matters, watch before S2E1.

 

[Owain Taggart]

That's very difficult if the entire show was vomited up one day and binged to the end by half the audience or more.

Yeah, difficult to have a water-cooler effect when whole seasons are just dumped. In a way, it means that one's gotta binge an entire season in order to have that conversation. The quota's shifted, but it requires more commitment. I still have to think that if a show needs to be binged in order to be successful, that Netfilix isn't entirely sure about it in the first place. I'm not going to drop everything, a current show for example, in order to binge watch another. There's an air of smugness in having to do that.

 

[Starbrow]

It ended on a cliffhanger and, yes, it has been official cancelled.

Like you I have officially reached the point where I won't start a new show on NF unless it's already been concluded and given a proper ending, either because its a couple of years old or because it was a mini in the first place.

Such a shame about cancelation.
Also i didn't felt like it was a cliffhanger, as they finished with solving the mystery instead of leaving it to be solved in 2nd season. So the series felt complete for me with just 1 season.
Now that the cat is out of the bag, i guess they felt season 2 would have lost it's Mystry plot, since the truth have been revealed, hence the cancelation.

 

[Photoman15]

I never never never could have imagined that

Spoiler: Ending don't read or it will ruin your experience if you haven't finished watching.

they were on a space ship, and this was their part of a sleep simulation during voyage. I saw the somewhat modern tech at the end of the series, but at best i thought it would be set in the present, but not so far in to the future.
I am guessing 2nd season might be set in a different simulation, and that would be the theme of this series

Haven't watched it yet (my wife has and she liked it). But it sounds like the final episode of

Spoiler

Life On Mars (US version)

which was put together hastily when they found out they weren't coming back for a second season.

 

[Crewman6]

I only got a chance to watch the first episode.

Though I really enjoyed it, I wonder if there's any point to finishing the season now.

Any thoughts from those who saw the whole thing?

 

[Kai "the spy"]

I finished it yesterday. Liked it quite a lot, and yes, even if this is the end, it kind of works as a bit of a twist ending.

Although there are still several open questions, and I would have loved to see a continuation.
Since I'm not active on Twitter or Facebook, I took to Netflix directly, they have this option where you can suggest things you want to see on the plattform, and I wrote '1899', just on the off-chance that with demand from enough people, they may give it another chance.

 

[Morpheus 02]

Yeah, I find the whole idea and mentality of binging is at odds with the idea that a streaming service allows you to watch shows whenever you want. That's the way the streaming model was sold in the beginning. If there's an added urgency to it, then we're really no better off than we were with Network TV. Especially when there's even more programming to get through.

I'm always watching something, and on my own time, and I always find I have to make other series wait their turn. If I have to binge something just to make sure it doesn't fail, then that isn't nearly as fun for me as a viewer.

The thing is... binging IS a thing.... it just ought to happen for OLDER shows, so Netflix can its money worth for that show, and they don't have to cancel anything... just let people finish.

My wife and i did that woth 24 back when Blockbuster existed. We'd check out a DVD with some episodes for a week (one of tose rentals), watch one episode then say "let's just see a few minutes of the next episode..." and then watch the season by the end of the weekend.

I have noticed though, they keep advertising shows thay were popular on Netflix a year ago...so that too doesn't help

 

[Owain Taggart]

The thing is... binging IS a thing.... it just ought to happen for OLDER shows, so Netflix can its money worth for that show, and they don't have to cancel anything... just let people finish.

Oh, I don't doubt it. As a way of catching up on things, binging is the way the go. It's just expecting instant gratification from newer shows that have turned the model upside down. They want success, and they want it instantly even if it were just released yesterday. And that's just not realistic nor fair to viewers. Especially when you have so many shows battling for attention.