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16-year-old girl arrested for hitting father who was spanking her

A man trying to spank or belt a 16 year old girl as punishment seems mighty strange to me.

He probably gets off on it.
One can only assume so.

That's a... dangerous assumption to make, as incestuous feelings are incredibly damaging and destructive and shouldn't just be bandied about flippantly. :vulcan:Whether or not you're both right, I don't think there's any reason to assume that level of guilt.
 
I disagree that belting is abuse. It depends on your intentions and usage.
Explain to me the functional difference between a leather belt and a leather whip. The only difference I see is length.

Jan
 
I disagree that belting is abuse. It depends on your intentions and usage.
Explain to me the functional difference between a leather belt and a leather whip. The only difference I see is length.

Jan

You obviously believe it is abuse, I obviously believe it is not. Simple really, we have differing opinions. I've already explained my view, I'm not going to fight over definitions of a belt and a whip, cause I really don't care, I have no need to convince you of my opinion, neither of us are going to change each others mind here on this forum, and that's ok :)
 
These people should both rot in prison. The girl was a violent prick, true, but her dad had no right to hit her. Not when she was that old. 16 is way the hell over the line.
 
I disagree that belting is abuse. It depends on your intentions and usage.
Explain to me the functional difference between a leather belt and a leather whip. The only difference I see is length.

Jan

You obviously believe it is abuse, I obviously believe it is not. Simple really, we have differing opinions. I've already explained my view, I'm not going to fight over definitions of a belt and a whip, cause I really don't care, I have no need to convince you of my opinion, neither of us are going to change each others mind here on this forum, and that's ok :)
Actually, it was a serious question, not meant to be confrontational. I cannot see any difference but I acknowledge that some people do so I asked the question.
 
Explain to me the functional difference between a leather belt and a leather whip. The only difference I see is length.

Jan

You obviously believe it is abuse, I obviously believe it is not. Simple really, we have differing opinions. I've already explained my view, I'm not going to fight over definitions of a belt and a whip, cause I really don't care, I have no need to convince you of my opinion, neither of us are going to change each others mind here on this forum, and that's ok :)
Actually, it was a serious question, not meant to be confrontational. I cannot see any difference but I acknowledge that some people do so I asked the question.

yes, I see a big difference then

a belt is worn around the waist to hold up a persons pants

a whip is a torture device that causes lashes
 
You obviously believe it is abuse, I obviously believe it is not. Simple really, we have differing opinions. I've already explained my view, I'm not going to fight over definitions of a belt and a whip, cause I really don't care, I have no need to convince you of my opinion, neither of us are going to change each others mind here on this forum, and that's ok :)
Actually, it was a serious question, not meant to be confrontational. I cannot see any difference but I acknowledge that some people do so I asked the question.

yes, I see a big difference then

a belt is worn around the waist to hold up a persons pants

a whip is a torture device that causes lashes

And when a belt is used to beat someone, it turns into a whip.
 
Actually, it was a serious question, not meant to be confrontational. I cannot see any difference but I acknowledge that some people do so I asked the question.

yes, I see a big difference then

a belt is worn around the waist to hold up a persons pants

a whip is a torture device that causes lashes

And when a belt is used to beat someone, it turns into a whip.

No, it remains a belt, I don't think it has the power to morph into another object. When you crack a whip, there is a difference between that and taking a belt and whacking someone from side to side with it, very different outcomes of pain and injury.

You can hit someone with a belt without beating them, it is possible, it has been done to me, I can attest to the ability to hit someone with a belt and have it not be a beating.

Try it yourself, take a belt, and whack yourself, you'll see it is possible to do it without being a beating.
 
Brent, when I was a child my mother used to hit me with a hairbrush. Is the OK. in your opinion.
 
Brent, when I was a child my mother used to hit me with a hairbrush. Is the OK. in your opinion.

I can't believe everyone is so hung up on specific objects, I'm not going to argue about what objects are and aren't acceptable, that'll take a lifetime. I'm just going to firmly state, I believe in spanking. Spare the rod, spoil the child is the credo I follow.
 
I think spanking is okay to a point, but I definitely believe an age limit is equally as important on the object being used.

16 is simply too old.
 
Because I considered that I was beaten as a child (with a hairbrush) and I considered that I was an abused child. Both my sisters considered that they were abused as well.

As a result of the abuse I received as a child I was too accepting of the abuse I received when I was married. When I married I wasn't much older than this girl is now (I was 18).
 
Because I considered that I was beaten as a child (with a hairbrush) and I considered that I was an abused child. Both my sisters considered that they were abused as well.

As a result of the abuse I received as a child I was too accepting of the abuse I received when I was married. When I married I wasn't much older than this girl is now (I was 18).

I have to say a hairbrush is a bit harsh and not what I would choose. I think the open hand is the best.
 
Spanking should be a slap with the hand and nothing more.

Anyone "spanked" with an actual object should be spanked with that same object themselves. In the face.
 
I would also say, on a whole, a boy will act very differently to a belting than a girl.

When I was at school boys would be seen as heroes if they could take the cuts 'like a man". They were often proud of being punished in such a way. Most girls on the rather hand found punished in such a way degrading and it made them feel powerless. There was no honour in the eyes of their peers.
 
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