Absolutely. I am not the one looking to deny the forces at play.
“Jean-Luc Picard is back”: will new Picard show eclipse Discovery?
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Absolutely. I am not the one looking to deny the forces at play.
Business is never black and white and we will never know the full story.
Tell me how CBS could acquire something like Netflix? What capital would they bring to bear, and would Netflix or Hulu even be open to selling? Not like they are hurting. And, if Netflix could be bought, why would Disney launch their own instead of just acquiring that asset? The actions of Disney and CBS indicates that they think that they can compete in that market and make money. They are putting more money behind DSC and Star Trek as a whole which means they don't see it as a failure.
They'll look at the metrics that a startup would look at. They'll look at trends. Gains and losses in growth. They'll do market research to identify what is hitting and missing and why. Again, at this point profit (if any) is second to growth and market share. I also would not be surprised if Moonves (or successor) would be looking to for a partner to merge with or buy or even sell out to. As officers of the company it is their responsibility to work to improve company value or an activist investment group can buy a 3-5% stake and force the issue. It is all about valuation.
It's a "start-up" connected to media giant with deep pockets and huge assets. The CBS Corporation is not small potatoes.
I am entertained by the way you disagree with what I say then repeat my points as your own.
I said merge with, buy out or sell to … whichever makes more sense. I don't know the financials. CBS, all things considered, has sizeable assets and Netflix is currently a BIG fish in the streaming business. The certainly could add value to each other. CBS may already have a stake in Hulu (I can't recall) so maybe they'd be a better choice. They are all afraid of Disney right now and that fear could be used to advantage if they were motivated in that direction. Everything is done to add corporate value for shareholders not create Star Trek for Trekkies. Bottom line.
I am disagreeing?I am entertained by the way you disagree with what I say then repeat my points as your own.
I'll make this one simple: Yup.
I doubt, especially now, that Les Moonves is committing unlimited resources to All Access. It is given a budget. They make projections. They monitor. They evaluate. Look at CBS's history. They've bought and been bought. They've sold and been sold. It's nothing new. They once owned the Yankees and Fender Guitar. Now they don't. They were once owned and now they are owners. It is a cycle.
If Discovery or the new show were PSA's, you might have a point. But they aren't. CBS is trying to make a buck.
And diversity is helping in that regard.
Not sure of what makes you think that "poor" people (generally) believe in diversity.
CBS's plan as I see it at this point is simply a question of diversifying their audience. All Access has plenty of good shows, even without Star Trek, but they do seem to lean heavily towards the standard broadcast drama/sitcom area. Having such a narrow focus is potentially dangerous, especially with competition in the streaming business heating up. Star Trek is therefore not so much the 'flagship' of the service, intended to carry the whole thing on its back, as it is the flagship of the first big push to bring in a whole separate audience and make the total viewership of the service more varied and the service itself therefore more shock-resistant. Discovery, in that sense, was a test balloon designed to see if the sci-fi/trek audience is a good choice to go for in this regard, and CBS were clearly happy with the results of that test balloon.
Obviously, there is a balance to be struck in terms of money, investing in sci-fi shows is expensive and investing in lots of them requires a big pay-off. But they're not rushing in like idiots. The Picard show likely won't premiere until around the 3rd season of DSC, if that. Other Trek shows haven't even been announced yet, so will take even longer. And the Twilight Zone is proof that they don't want to depend exclusively on Trek to maintain this audience, either.
What they are doing, in the end, is spreading the expense out over several years and growing the audience slowly and steadily through that time (and the longer it goes, the more likely the audience becomes truly bonded to CBSAA because of increased content levels), but *once that period has born fruit*, they will have a whole library of exclusive science fiction shows in multiple popular brands that can't be seen on any other streaming service. In addition to all their classic broadcast dramas and sitcoms. At that point, they can probably back off of it a bit - make just enough new content to keep the long subscribing sci-fi audience stimulated while relying on the backlog to keep bringing new sci-fi fans in and then they move on to the next kind of audience they want to bring in.
Obviously, there is a balance to be struck in terms of money, investing in sci-fi shows is expensive and investing in lots of them requires a big pay-off. But they're not rushing in like idiots. The Picard show likely won't premiere until around the 3rd season of DSC, if that. Other Trek shows haven't even been announced yet, so will take even longer. And the Twilight Zone is proof that they don't want to depend exclusively on Trek to maintain this audience, either.
What they are doing, in the end, is spreading the expense out over several years and growing the audience slowly and steadily through that time (and the longer it goes, the more likely the audience becomes truly bonded to CBSAA because of increased content levels), but *once that period has born fruit*, they will have a whole library of exclusive science fiction shows in multiple popular brands that can't be seen on any other streaming service. In addition to all their classic broadcast dramas and sitcoms. At that point, they can probably back off of it a bit - make just enough new content to keep the long subscribing sci-fi audience stimulated while relying on the backlog to keep bringing new sci-fi fans in and then they move on to the next kind of audience they want to bring in.
No idea. I didn’t say that. In fact my original comment was about different flavours and a bit of a pun.
However isn’t the idea we wouldn’t a bit snobbish?
Current financial status and general outlook on life may have nothing to do with each other. Depends on the individual.
Merchandising only so...Stewart will grow a beard and never ever wear command red.
He will also inexplicably grow a window, and have his legs and bum attached differently.
It will be to TNG what TMP was to Star Trek.
That’s not possible. TMP was better than TOS . ....
No. It was a bad TOS episode on steroids.
It was beautiful.
It's better with the sound off.
What? The soundtrack is great!
I'd like a version with just the soundtrack and the visuals.
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