“Jean-Luc Picard is back”: will new Picard show eclipse Discovery?

This.

 

I'm not talking about actors wearing casual in their spare time. Most people probably wouldn't even recognize Leonardo DiCaprio if he stood next to them in a subway.

I'm talking about Captain Picard. Patrick Stewart, wearing a Starfleet uniform. The guy from the facepalm-meme.
That's as universal an image in our pop-culture as Kirk fighting Spock to that music (da-da-daa-daa-daa-da-daa-dada-da), Walter White saying "I am the danger" or that Netflix kids on their damn 80s bikes. People are familiar with it. Even those that never watched it.

 

I am as much a fan of Michelle as the next guy, but I am afraid you are mistaken. Sir Patrick Stewart is very well known, and his general gadding about still makes the news here. He works more in the U.S, but he’s still very well known. Basically ‘famous in home country and to fans of their main genre’ could apply to either of them. And both also foi d fame in the US. (Yeoh with Hero, Stewart with TNG) Though both did their legwork. They are pretty comparable. And to finish with another caveat, I am not a pat stew fan.

 

Nope.

The entire cast - Yeoh specifically - is evidence enough CBS's intent was to extend feelers beyond the confines of straight white men living in Canada, US, and Western Europe.

 

This.

 

Doesn't that apply to TOS' initial bridge crew as well? Even more in fact as the problem was much worse back then...

 

In the Sixties, advertisers were looking for new markets which is why they request POC in the casts of many shows, including Star Trek.

 

Sorry, POC?

 

People/Person of Color.

 

Isn't that what they always do, look for new markets that is? Some are just more savvy about it than others.

 

Whatever the initial intent may have been, it's inescapably obvious now that CBS intends to settle for spoon-feeding a dependable small audience of dedicated trekkies. This show is going nowhere innovative or interesting. There are some clever things being done in skiffy TV now - even some smart things. Trek, however, is safely bringing up the rear.

 

Trek has been safely bringing up the year since TNG.

 

Translation: "This show is going nowhere that I like." You had your way for 15 years. That's long enough.

Sticks and stones.

#Nope

If I stop liking what they put out, I'll just stop watching again. Not like I haven't done it before.

 

Well, this is one of the times I giggle at how insular and strange the world has become. (I don’t disagree with either of you incidentally) Because in this neck of the woods, once upon a time, most of the straight white men I knew, if not quite all, knew precisely who Michelle Yeoh/Khan was. I’d go as far as to say not only us pale ones either. After Hero, I suspect nearly everyone I socialised with knew who she was in fact. But then, I don’t remember a time any of us were so insular as to confuse a television set with a mirror, and wonder why the people on it didn’t look exactly like us.
The 21st century has clearly been very regressive.

 

DS9 was ahead of its time for TV sci-fi. experimenting with serialized arcs at a time that few other shows were doing so. But otherwise I generally agree.

 

I don't think I've ever seen Michelle Yeoh in anything other than Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon up until Discovery.

 

That's rich coming from someone who loves The Orville. That's a show that is mired in nostalgia. I like it too. But it's not going anywhere new. Just covering old ground.

 

Nope.

 

I bought Police Story 3 supercop as soon as it came out on VHS when I was a teen, and of corse there was James Bond. She’s in all sorts of stuff, and apparently is a Londoner these days. Go Michelle.

 

Also yes...I meant crouching tiger lol. I dunno why my brain threw in hero.