‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

[M.A.C.O.]

I really hope they don't make a Captain Marvel movie (I will never call the pre-New 52 version "shazam"). Pre-Reboot Captain Marvel is my favorite DC superhero, but DC has basically reversed his personality completely in the new comics. That means any movie would him would probably have him as the horrible, greedy, mean spirited teenager from the newer comics, instead of the hero who was more of a boy scout than Superman that was around from his creation until 2011 (not counting the stupid "evil" turn in Countdown, which was complete BS and he had no control over anyway).

He was actually interesting as a orphan with a heart of gold who could become a hero by saying a magic word. The 90s Power of Shazam series did a great job with keeping to that idea at its core while developing Billy and his supporting cast into better developed characters. Generic angry teenager "Shazam" is bad enough in the comics, but I know any movie would use that version, because having nice, actually heroic heroes is something DC loathes in movies and comics nowadays. I'm betting her never gets a movie anyway, they'll be too busy screwing up characters non comic fans have a higher chance of recognizing. Then again, angsty, mean spirited teenager seems like something DC would love to do in a movie, so I can see it happening. I'll just hope any rumors of a Shazam movie turn out to be nothing more than rumors, just like the last time rumors like this were being talked about.

A Shazam movie could be awesome. I don't have a problem with Billy being a bratty teenager. Billy is an orphan trapped in the child care system and moving from foster home to foster home. That would make anyone jaded. He's still nice to his friends Freddie and his sister Mary. Besides the Wizard chose him despite his flaws. There is obviously good in Billy, and when he gets the powers he uses them to help people.

Also Carol Danvers is Captain Marvel now. Marvel comics owns the Trademark for the name. Go Carol Go!

 

[Professor Zoom]

It's all flash and not much else for me. I found it really hard for me to get connected emotionally to his characters. They all seem like puppets going through really visually appealing sequences... but, because I don't care... I just... don't care in the end.

Which is how I feel about most of the Marvel Universe movies, including the two (other than Captain America) that I liked - the first Iron Man and Avengers.

Oh, yeah. Especially The Avengers in the light of Days of Future Past.

For me though, I can give them an easier pass than MOS. The Marvel movies are trying to be just popcorn entertainment, let's have a laugh with a wink and a nod to how silly all of this is. I felt like MOS was trying to be more than a glib tent pole, but only got the visuals, but not the substance.

Whatever it's other faults, I actually thought MOS did a better job at humanizing its character than most other superhero movie I've seen. Cavill's Clark certainly felt more like a real, lived-in person than most of the quippy, comic booky Marvel characters out there.

I get the realness of Cavill's Clark, but, he felt so disconnected from everyone else. I never felt like the characters connected to each other. They just were. Just moving through the frame doing the thing they needed to do. Like everyone was emotionally distant from each other.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

A look at LexCorp

 

[Captaindemotion]

I was thinking Channing Tatum, but he looks a bit "rough" to be the good-natured Captain,

He's been cast as Gambit in the next X-Men movie. Obviously that doesn't preclude him appearing Shazam too but I would imagine it makes it a little less likely.

 

[AgentCoop]

I can see them maybe taking a lighter, more tongue-in-cheek approach with Captain Marvel (I agree, his name is Captain Marvel. I don't give a crap about trademarks.) Sort of what Marvel was apparently planning to do with Ant-Man, although with the departure of Edgar Wright, who the hell knows what they're doing anymore?

If they go with Hal as GL, I think Bradley Cooper would be a good choice. I'm sure they're undoubtedly going with Barry for the Flash, but since they're already going to have a Barry Allen Flash running around on the small screen, I still hold out some vain hope that they'll go with Wally for the movies. Wally is my Flash.

 

[TheSeeker]

Also Carol Danvers is Captain Marvel now. Marvel comics owns the Trademark for the name. Go Carol Go!

This has been the case for decades. I think DC finally just gave up on calling him Captain Marvel.

 

[M.A.C.O.]

Also Carol Danvers is Captain Marvel now. Marvel comics owns the Trademark for the name. Go Carol Go!

This has been the case for decades. I think DC finally just gave up on calling him Captain Marvel.

Yeah I think so as well. Because of the TM deal with Marvel, all of DC's Captain Marvel comics had to be titled Shazam. Also most casual readers identified Billy Baston as Shazam because that's the word he spoke to activate his powers. It irked me a little bit when they did this for New52, but after reading the comic, I liked the change. It's not like Shazam is an inappropriate name or that the wizard who shares the name was that influential to the story telling. More power to both DC and Marvel for doing different things with their characters. Especially Carol Danvers. Funny thing is, Supergirl during the 90's was called Linda Danvers. DC and Marvel always lifting ideas from one another.

 

[kirk55555]

Well, as a big Captain Marvel fan I hated the change. Then I realised that, with the personality change, DC's Shazam no longer resembled the real, original Captain Marvel in anything but appearance. His whole premise is different. So, I can say that my favorite DC hero, Captain Marvel, isn't being used by DC anymore. The character that at one point outsold Superman got thrown away, and Shazam is basically a legacy hero, like when Dick Grayson became Batman. The real Billy Batson is dead, and the angsty teen with the same name is just some random d-bag. He is one of the worst rebooted heroes, and I hope he doesn't get a movie, and eventually fades away from the comics like other reboot failures Voodoo, Grifter, Static, etc. The big red cheese will always be my favorite DC hero, but Shazam needs to disappear. He definitely doesn't need a movie.

 

[Garak]

Considering I'm the one who wrote it, and I know exactly what I said and what I meant, yes. Yes it really was.



Try reading everything except the last sentence which I excluded above, since, apparently, that's fucking throwing you two.

So now you want us to judge a portion of your post now and not the actual post you wrote? Well that sure is convenient.

.....we know.

All I've said is "no, not really".

It does seem pretty logical to helpfully point out to someone so obviously confused by the relationship of characters vs actual real life writers.

Not me. I'm blaming the god damned writers, because the character has nothing to do with it.

Why does it sound like you're having an angry cry? Take a deep breath, son.

That's good advice for BOTH of you to take, please.

Calmer than you Neroon, calmer than you.

 

[JacksonArcher]

Kinda surprised there's no mention of a solo Affleck-Batman movie in there. Much as I was hoping for a MOS sequel, I thought for sure we'd see another Batman movie before we ever saw another solo Superman movie.

There's been talk of doing a solo Batman movie in 2020, which would be three years after Justice League (and eight years after The Dark Knight Rises). That is, if Justice League is slated for May 2017 as rumored.

Word on the street is that WB wants to wait some time before commissioning another solo Batman adventure in order to have enough time pass after Nolan's Batman trilogy, which honestly makes a lot of sense (something Sony could have benefited from with their Amazing Spider-Man reboot if they didn't have the rights issue to contend with). Especially if Kevin Smith's comments are true about WB's intention of doing team-up movies for now on, which given the Green Lantern/Flash team-up movie rumor might be true.

However, by 2020, it might be time for a new Batman reboot anyway. Ben Affleck is at least signed for the upcoming Batman vs. Superman and Justice League, but not much is known after that. Ben Affleck is also 41 and in six years he'll be 47, which might be too old for Batman. I could see WB opting for a different actor (also, would Affleck wanna continue to play Batman for that long) or I could even see Affleck working as an older Bruce Wayne in a Batman Beyond movie... if WB ever goes that route.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Word on the street is that WB wants to wait some time before commissioning another solo Batman adventure in order to have enough time pass after Nolan's Batman trilogy, which honestly makes a lot of sense (something Sony could have benefited from with their Amazing Spider-Man reboot if they didn't have the rights issue to contend with).

Hmmm...I seem to recall being taken to task around these parts last year for daring to suggest that they might take this approach....

Ben Affleck is also 41 and in six years he'll be 47, which might be too old for Batman.

Not if they're looking to TDKR for inspiration...Batman doesn't get too old, he just gets meaner.

A look at LexCorp

Reminds me of my old Saturn dealership....

Also most casual readers identified Billy Baston as Shazam because that's the word he spoke to activate his powers. It irked me a little bit when they did this for New52, but after reading the comic, I liked the change. It's not like Shazam is an inappropriate name or that the wizard who shares the name was that influential to the story telling. More power to both DC and Marvel for doing different things with their characters. Especially Carol Danvers. Funny thing is, Supergirl during the 90's was called Linda Danvers. DC and Marvel always lifting ideas from one another.

Wait, so is the current version of Cap in the same situation that Cap Jr. used to be in...not being able to say his own name?

Also, FWIW, the Linda Danvers name dates back to the 60s, before Carol Danvers was even a supporting character, from when the original version of the character was adopted by a family named Danvers.

 

[Thestral]

^ That's the silly thing about it to me. The magic word he says that transforms him is Shazam so he goes by... Shazam?

"Wow thank you so much, what's your name?"
"Shazam" *lightning bolt falls from sky, turns him back into kid/teen*
"Sooo... you're a kid?!"

or

"Who's your favorite superhero? Mine's Batman."
"Oh I like a lot of them... Superman's cool."
"Oh who's the big red one? What's his name, Shazoom?"
"You mean Shazam?" *bolt of lightning*
"WHOAH!!!"

 

[Mr Light]

Maybe it only works if he shouts it

 

[The Old Mixer]

Or he lets his agent, Jim Nabors, handle all introductions.

 

[theenglish]

Maybe the statue is from the end of the movie, and he does something more heroic in this one to earn it.

What's more heroic than saving the planet?

Saving the planet, rescuing the people in your city and finding a way to win the day without resorting to killing your opponent. That's what Superman does (see Grant Morrison's recent Action Comics arc). That's more heroic.

 

[Captaindemotion]

The Jason Momoa as Aquaman rumours are resurfacing: http://batman-news.com/2014/06/14/jason-momoa-is-aquaman-in-batman-v-superman-dawn-of-justice/

 

[Trekker4747]

Shazam? Seriously?!

 

[Mr Light]

Jason Momoa is the last person in the world I expected to play Aquaman. Is he going to be a short haired blonde in it?

 

[AgentCoop]

Jason Momoa is the last person in the world I expected to play Aquaman. Is he going to be a short haired blonde in it?

If there's any truth to that rumor, it almost seems like they're trying to make him more Namor-like. Not that that's necessarily a bad thing. It's not like Marvel seems to have any interest in bringing Namor to the big screen.

 

[AvBaur]

According to HitFix, it's more than a rumor: http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captur...awn-of-justice-and-we-know-how-it-will-happen