‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’
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Putting up with Bruce Wayne.
Ignoring the fact that Gotham would then have to deal with radiation and fallout, dying a slow death as opposed to a fast one. I'm the biggest Batman fan in the world, but I find it interesting that Superman is held to a much higher standard than Bats.
Ignoring the fact that Gotham would then have to deal with radiation and fallout, dying a slow death as opposed to a fast one. I'm the biggest Batman fan in the world, but I find it interesting that Superman is held to a much higher standard than Bats.
Batman's lack of choice helps, there. What was he supposed to do?
Presumably Superman could've thrown Zod to the Moon, or the Gobi Desert, or anywhere else than downtown Metropolis.
Ignoring the fact that Gotham would then have to deal with radiation and fallout, dying a slow death as opposed to a fast one. I'm the biggest Batman fan in the world, but I find it interesting that Superman is held to a much higher standard than Bats.
Because for some reason superman fans want him to be an omnipotent all powerful god that never makes a mistake.
Hence why they scream bloody murder if they nerf his power level to a reasonable non fanwanky level or write him like he is a real human being.
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
No, they want him to be the boy scout he's supposed to be. Superman is not an emo, brooding, will-kill-if-it's-easier-than-finding-another-solution vigilante. He's the definition of a superhero.
His powers don't factor into that one iota. Though when they start adding stupid ass powers, like celophane-shields, rebuild-Great-Wall-of-China vision, and slow-people-from-falling vision, that does get upsetting. Just like when they started adding bat nipples, bat asses, and bat credit cards to Batman.
Unless it's Smallville Then they have no problem with Clark killing 20 bad guys a year.
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
Yes, because Smallville is widely regarded as a great representation of Superman.
Eh, I'd rather he come across like a real, complex person having to make difficult choices than some perfect, noble icon who Always Does The Right Thing No Matter What.
Or some bland boy scout type (which he hasn't always been to begin with). Frankly I think it's about time someone tried to give him a bit of an edge again.
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
Those two things are completely separate from one another.
Killing Zod was in no way a difficult choice. It was the easy choice, and one the real Superman never would have made unless there was literally no other choice. (And yes, there were other choices than snapping the dude's neck.)
And considering that Superman is the noble icon of superheroes, he shouldb e the noble icon of superheroes. That's, like, his entire concept.
To be honest, I'm sick and tired of the villains almost always dying at the end of the movies, especially the DC movies. It's ridiculous, even if more "realistic." I mean, why is there even an Arkham Asylum in the Batman movies? Practically none of his villains live long enough to be put in there.
Batman villains living or dying at the end of the movies from 1989 to the present is about a 50/50 proposition.
Mister Fandango
Fleet Captain
Why have superheroes at all?
Just have the military come in with tanks and shit and completely destroy anyone who even considers doing something wrong?
Death to criminals, bitches! WOOO!
Just have the military come in with tanks and shit and completely destroy anyone who even considers doing something wrong?
Death to criminals, bitches! WOOO!
I actually agree with you. Superman's inherent goodness, his absolute conviction to try to do the right thing in every circumstance is a big part of why he's a wonderful character. However I don't think that really means anything unless it's tested. It was tested in the original Donner film, when he deliberately went against Jor-El's instructions and changed history in order to save Lois. It was tested in the John Byrne storyline from the 90's when Supes made the decision to execute Zod and his cronies in order to save the people of Earth. I don't see anything different in MOS. I keep seeing people criticizing the film for Superman's killing of Zod, but I don't see anyone saying what Superman should have done. What was his alternative? What choice did he have?
