It's going to be close, that's for sure. And you're right, it is basicly Cap vs Iron Man, something Marvel will market for all it's worth.
I guess we'll have to wait and see, it's impossible to predict which one will 'win'.
‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’
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It's going to be close, that's for sure. And you're right, it is basicly Cap vs Iron Man, something Marvel will market for all it's worth.
I guess we'll have to wait and see, it's impossible to predict which one will 'win'.
BvS is going to cross the 1 billion mark easily, I think. I personally hated MoS, but I'm still not missing it for the world.
So Batman and Superman are somehow above all other superheroes?
I'm not usually one to trot out numbers, but it's interesting to note that his Superman movie made less (in the US) than any of the Iron Man movies, a fairly unknown character before the first film, and Guardians of the Galaxy, an almost completely unknown comic property.
I'm sure BvS will do extremely well (and I really hope it will be great), but I don't see the need to shit on the other guys. Let your movie do the talking, Zack.
I'm not usually one to trot out numbers, but it's interesting to note that his Superman movie made less (in the US) than any of the Iron Man movies, a fairly unknown character before the first film, and Guardians of the Galaxy, an almost completely unknown comic property.
I'm sure BvS will do extremely well (and I really hope it will be great), but I don't see the need to shit on the other guys. Let your movie do the talking, Zack.
The question wasn't how much BvS will make, but wether or not it can beat Civil War, cash-wise. It might do that, it might not. We'll have to wait and see.
I do believe that both movies should be able to hit the billion dollar mark with ease.
I can see Superman vs Batman making more money then Captain America:CW. I know we put a lot of onus on box office, will it make a billion? What movie can dethrone Avatar? Funny, I don't entirely disagree with what Zack Snyder is saying. Even with its faults, MoS is an interesting take on the Superman mythos. In the end, which movie will be more fulfilling, I don't know. However my money is on Captain America.
And yet DC plans to make movies for Aquaman and Cyborg....
Not sure their Marvel stuff is their best work. And there is a certain assembly line/cookie cutter feel to Marvel's product. But there are Marvel films I enjoyed more than MOS and some I didn't. I found there was a little more depth in CA: TWS than the average Marvel film, while Ant-Man seemed to be missing something.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maX-ObiJB3o
I should be ashamed to post this but it's just relevant enough.
I should be ashamed to post this but it's just relevant enough.
Well most people are probably more likely to know who they are without movies than the other guys.
I am going to see both movies in the cinema, and hope that they do both very well.
And maybe over a few years we have a crossover between the marvel and dc characters
And maybe over a few years we have a crossover between the marvel and dc characters
Doesn't matter, neither was MoS Snyder's.
Yes there is, but make no mistake, WB is aiming for the same thing, which is exactly what makes Snyder full of shit.
When have they NOT been above all other superheroes? Seriously, these two are the single most recognizable heroes in existence who have permeated pop culture in ways no other superhero has. They are two of the most primal archetypes in the genre.
So yeah, they are indeed above all other superheroes. I mean the reason we call them "SUPERheroes" is because of "SUPERman" in the first place. If he had been called "Ultraman", then we'd be calling these characters "Ultraheroes".
Exactly. Marvel talks smack...why that's just Marvel being irreverent. DC talks smack and suddenly it's "FOUL!" and a never ending stream of butt hurt.
Exactly, and it hurt the movie. As well as doing the whole "Avengers fight an army" thing at the end. They should not have done that in the first film, nor repeated it in the sequel as it should've been saved for when they go up against Thanos. Audiences walked away from Avengers 2 with a sense of "been there, done that" and you don't want them coming out of the climax of nine years worth of films with that feeling.
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I forsee the final numbers for both movies being pretty close. At this point any new Marvel movie is pretty much a guaranteed hit, and the extra draw of seeing the characters fighting each other will definitely bring in even more people than a completely solo movie would.
People have also been wanting to see Superman and Batman together pretty much since they first started making DC superhero movies, so that will bring in a lot of people for that.
The only reason I could maybe see CW coming out on top is because at this point people have a much better idea of what to expect from a Marvel movie, while BvS is a bit more of a mystery and that could scare some people off.
I really don't see why people like Snyder feels the need to rip on Marvel. Sure the might have a bit of a different tone and attitude then the Marvel movies, but I have a feeling in the long run the DC movies are probably not going to be that different.
People have also been wanting to see Superman and Batman together pretty much since they first started making DC superhero movies, so that will bring in a lot of people for that.
The only reason I could maybe see CW coming out on top is because at this point people have a much better idea of what to expect from a Marvel movie, while BvS is a bit more of a mystery and that could scare some people off.
I really don't see why people like Snyder feels the need to rip on Marvel. Sure the might have a bit of a different tone and attitude then the Marvel movies, but I have a feeling in the long run the DC movies are probably not going to be that different.
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Did "TheWrap" have to go with such an inflammatory title? I know they wanted clicks, but "TheDailyBeast" did a better interview.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/10/zack-snyder-sorry-marvel-batman-v-superman-transcends-superhero-movies.html
Since Snyder was partially responding to Steven Spielberg's comments about Superh Hero movies being a fad and they will dry up like Westerns did after the 60's.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/09/02/steven-spielberg-predicts-superhero-movies-will-go-the-way-of-the-western/
As far as "ripping" on eachother goes. Casual reminder that Samuel L Jackson, Robert Downey Jr and Anthony Mackie have all made disparaging comments about DC/WB, at one point in time. It's not a big deal.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/10/zack-snyder-sorry-marvel-batman-v-superman-transcends-superhero-movies.html
Since Snyder was partially responding to Steven Spielberg's comments about Superh Hero movies being a fad and they will dry up like Westerns did after the 60's.
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/09/02/steven-spielberg-predicts-superhero-movies-will-go-the-way-of-the-western/
As far as "ripping" on eachother goes. Casual reminder that Samuel L Jackson, Robert Downey Jr and Anthony Mackie have all made disparaging comments about DC/WB, at one point in time. It's not a big deal.
Oh please, when you read the original interview even the writer says he was only playfully knocking Ant-Man. And his main point was only that he thinks characters like Batman and Superman are a lot more special and iconic than most we see movies made of these days, and shouldn't simply be lumped in with the rest of the superhero genre that Spielberg seemed to be talking about.
Well the fact they're introducing a bunch of newer characters (with hopefully some fun new character dynamics) should mitigate some of that, but I agree the basic idea of Marvel characters fighting each other just doesn't seem remotely interesting to me anymore.
Especially when there are likely to be so many jokes and one-liners spread around that it'll be hard to take this "civil war" all that seriously anyway.
Pretty much how I feel. And when your characters are spouting numerous one liners and funny quips in situations that are supposed to be dire, then it strips that situation of all sense of threat.
In Marvel's comics, you had the funny character, like the Beast, Spidey or Human Torch for instance, who could crack wise in the heat of battle because that was their personality and their function in the group. Now everybody cracks wise in the heat of battle as if it's all a game and there's no reason to be scared....and that's exactly how I feel as an audience member.
Nothing like watching two interns have wacky adventures in the middle of a war zone where a villain is trying to destroy the entire universe, not the Earth Craig, the UNIVERSE to totally strip away the sense of threat posed by the bad guy.
You can bet if Cap and Black Widow teamed up in the comics, there would be no constant jokes about who's interested in dating Cap mainly because Cap would be all "Stow it Avenger. We've got to be focused on this battle or innocents could get hurt".
Oh...right...that's not "FUN!"™
