‘Superman & Batman’ movie will follow ‘Man of Steel’

[Ovation]

^Why not? Superman was made to look pretty bad in MoS.

Superman in MoS is like Kirk and co. in Trek '09--inexperienced and finding his way. I was not expecting him to be the master of the situation. I expected what I got--someone who is facing a crisis beyond anything in his imagination. Of course he's going to rely on the help and direction of others who have more knowledge of such things. As Kirk said to Saavik once, "we learn by doing". I expect his experience with killing Zod is what bars him from killing again. I expect his experience with facing a military-style threat will get him to bear down and study (off-camera--no need to see this happen before the next film). I expect he will reflect on what he did and seek to do a better job next time. What I did not expect, given it is an origin and introduction story, was a fully realized Superman who hits all the "right beats" from the get go. That would have been boring.

The same applies to Kirk and Co. in the Abrams films. I don't expect the fully actualized, confident Kirk of TOS.

Oops. Just realized I was in the Superman/Batman thread. On topic: As I very much enjoyed both MoS and the Dark Knight trilogy, I feel reasonably confident about this project.

YMMV

 

[SG-17]

Well I loved Man of Steel and I loved the Superman/Batman animated films, so I am very much looking forward to this film.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Casting for Batman should be announced pretty soon given the schedule they're looking at for this film. Cavill and Armie Hammer are due to shoot Man from UNCLE in the fall. I wonder if we'll see the two of them move straight on to Superman/Batman thereafter.

 

[Agent Richard07]

Considering we're just coming off of a complete Batman trilogy, it's the right approach. Keep things moving, don't clutter things up by doing unnecessary set-up films.

Yeah, the more this sinks in, the more it makes sense. Doing yet another Batman movie so soon didn't feel right and maybe they saw that too. This is a good strategy. I do hope though that people here are right and that this really is a Man of Steel sequel that just happens to incorporate Batman. I want to see this version of Superman explored a little more and not get sidelined too much by a World's Finest/Justice League story.

 

[DigificWriter]

As much as I'd like to see it happen, the Nolan-verse isn't going to be continued as part of a wider live-action DCU. As per Emma Thomas:

Whilst our Dark Knight trilogy is complete, we have every confidence that Zack’s fresh interpretation will take the character in a new and exciting direction.

Regarding whether or not this is a Man of Steel sequel that just so happens to involve Batman, the feeling I've gotten from the various reports I've read is that such is indeed the case.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

Snyder referred to it as a Superman sequel at the Comic-Con panel.

 

[Gojira]

I feel a bit mixed about this. While I would love to see a Superman & Batman movie, I would have liked at least one more solo Superman movie before they teamed him up with Batman.

But I am open to it. Can't wait to see who they ast as Batman.

 

[marksound]

If they do this, I hope they will consider my favorite Batman actor, Kevin Porter.

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

^^^
They won't.

 

[Greg Cox]

Press release says Cavill, Adams, Lane and Fishburne are confirmed to return and that a new Batman will be cast. Here's the logo they showed at Comic-Con.

Interesting. Will they be using the Nolan Batman continuity, with a new actor, or set up something else? Seems strange to jump in with a new continuity for Batman without setting it up in its own story, but at the same time the Nolanverse really doesn't have room for a magic flying alien.

Honestly, I don't think they really need a new movie to set up a new Batman. At this point, most of the world knows the basics: Wayne Manor, Alfred, Bat-Cave, dead parents, etc.

If, in the new movie, Superman visits Gotham City and a mysterious stranger in a bat-suit emerges from the shadows, I doubt if anyone in the audience is going to wonder, "Hey, who is this Batman dude? What's his story?"

 

[Set Harth]

I would love it if the film featured the John Blake Batman and was thus a sequel to both The Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel.

So would I. Even if that were to happen, would general audiences ever buy someone other than Bruce Wayne as Batman? Which is why I don't think I'll ever see a live-action Batman Beyond film.

Although TDKR sets up a hypothetical Batman Beyond movie pretty well, with Blake in the McGinnis role...

 

[Dorian Thompson]

This is a terrible idea. I may be in the minority, but this doesn't encourage me at all. Batman coming on the scene before Superman is a fully actualized character bodes ill for the movie. It screams more CGI action and limited character development. If Batman is cast wrong, even worse.

This idea needed to come after the MOS sequel. Superman could really be overshadowed by the Batman character. I don't trust the MOS writers to balance anything in terms of story. It screams "gimmick!" Then again, I've never been someone clamoring for a justice league movie. It's all just a little too precious.

 

[marksound]

^^^
They won't.

I know, and that's too bad. He's a really good Batman.

 

[Greg Cox]

I would love it if the film featured the John Blake Batman and was thus a sequel to both The Dark Knight Rises and Man of Steel.

So would I. Even if that were to happen, would general audiences ever buy someone other than Bruce Wayne as Batman? Which is why I don't think I'll ever see a live-action Batman Beyond film.

Although TDKR sets up a hypothetical Batman Beyond movie pretty well, with Blake in the McGinnis role...

Honestly, if we're finally getting a Superman/Batman movie, I think it needs to be Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. That's what people are going to want to see.

There's a reason that STAR TREK: GENERATIONS didn't feature the long-awaited meeting between Captains Picard and Sulu!

 

[Turtletrekker]

Press release says Cavill, Adams, Lane and Fishburne are confirmed to return and that a new Batman will be cast. Here's the logo they showed at Comic-Con.

Interesting. Will they be using the Nolan Batman continuity, with a new actor, or set up something else? Seems strange to jump in with a new continuity for Batman without setting it up in its own story, but at the same time the Nolanverse really doesn't have room for a magic flying alien.

Honestly, I don't think they really need a new movie to set up a new Batman. At this point, most of the world knows the basics: Wayne Manor, Alfred, Bat-Cave, dead parents, etc.

If, in the new movie, Superman visits Gotham City and a mysterious stranger in a bat-suit emerges from the shadows, I doubt if anyone in the audience is going to wonder, "Hey, who is this Batman dude? What's his story?"

Exactly. If Snyder, Goyer, Nolan, ect; feel the need to put their own stamp on Batman's origins for this new continuity, they can holdout for the eventual solo movie. It wouldn't well serve the pacing of a team-up movie to diverge away from the movie's main story for however long it takes to give the audience information that it essentially already knows.

 

[Set Harth]

So would I. Even if that were to happen, would general audiences ever buy someone other than Bruce Wayne as Batman? Which is why I don't think I'll ever see a live-action Batman Beyond film.

Although TDKR sets up a hypothetical Batman Beyond movie pretty well, with Blake in the McGinnis role...

Honestly, if we're finally getting a Superman/Batman movie, I think it needs to be Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. That's what people are going to want to see.

There's a reason that STAR TREK: GENERATIONS didn't feature the long-awaited meeting between Captains Picard and Sulu!

Yeah, I'm not really seeing Blake as Batman in a Superman/Batman team-up.

I was just wishfully thinking of a hypothetical 4th Nolanverse film which will never happen.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Besides The Dark Knight Returns, there's another Batman/Superman crossover that Snyder and Goyer should pilfer from. And, interestingly enough, DC is reprinting it this fall. That would be 1989's Dark Knight Over Metropolis.

The story is a pretty trivial murder mystery that brings Batman to Metropolis. The important thing about the story is the conclusion, where Superman gives Batman Luthor's Kryptonite Ring because, and I'm quoting this from some very old memories, Superman wants the power to kill him "in the hands of the one man I can trust."

 

[Out Of My Vulcan Mind]

My guess is that Batman and Lex Luthor will be allied for a while in seeing Superman as a potential threat to mankind.

 

[TREK_GOD_1]

Anyway, I'd be a lot happier with this news if it weren't from Snyder and Goyer. Cavill as Superman, I love. But MoS got Superman horribly wrong in many ways, and the gratuitous and shallow excess of its final act turned me off of ever wanting to see a Snyder movie again. I'll be rather wary of this one as a result, which is a terrible shame, because I love the idea of a World's Finest movie.

Agreed. Covered all of my concerns about this team-up film.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Although TDKR sets up a hypothetical Batman Beyond movie pretty well, with Blake in the McGinnis role...

Honestly, if we're finally getting a Superman/Batman movie, I think it needs to be Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne. That's what people are going to want to see.

There's a reason that STAR TREK: GENERATIONS didn't feature the long-awaited meeting between Captains Picard and Sulu!

Yeah, I'm not really seeing Blake as Batman in a Superman/Batman team-up.

I was just wishfully thinking of a hypothetical 4th Nolanverse film which will never happen.

They can always do a Nolanverse comic featuring Blake.