The safe words are "the givers of pain and delight."
Spoilers Star Trek: Lower Decks 2x08 - "I, Excretus"
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In other words, Brian Brophy.
Or "Brain and brain, what is brain?"
Brain bran is a popular cereal on that planet.
Just popping in to wonder how a holodeck could simulate the experience of being assimilated? Like, it's a body hijack. I don't think the holodeck can *make* you do something you don't want to do.
Not that it detracts from the episode, just one of those headscratchers.
Not that it detracts from the episode, just one of those headscratchers.
A holodeck can make you lose consciousness though as seen in "Our Man Bashir" where the villain makes Bashir et al. pass out with a gas-expelling cigarette.
Well, on Voyager B'Elanna had a simulated pregnancy. Obviously there was mind control involved but still the precedent is there.
I thought it was symbolic of Boimler's state of mind after 12 hours in there, or however long it was.
well, as long as there is no mutilation involved I can’t see a reason a holodeck couldn’t simulate being assimilated at least to a degree, even with safeties on.
And with safeties off even mutilation should be quite doable.
the psychological effects of being connected to a collective are probably vastly underrepresented, but still the experience should be quite horrible.
Boimler pushed himself to the extreme.
But they can gather all that intel with shields. Pawns are the least valuable pieces in chess, but sacrificing them without reason is still stupid.
It really seems like those should be harder to open...
I dunno, logistically Borg placing no value on life means that they ARE using equipment to learn things.
precisely.
Yeah. But it’s hardly the first time that Starfleet security is somewhat lacking.
I keep thinking about Picard, Data and Troi telling the crying kid from Hero Worship that he couldn't accidentally destroy a starship when he pressed a bunch of buttons while in a panic because there are safeguards, and wondering....
On DS9 they abandoned the station without locking the consoles and apparently with the "increase chronotons program" still active so Kai Winn with her very sketchy knowledge of operations was able to stop the fight on the station. That kind of thing would never happen in real life. Could you imagine a nuclear plant with that kind of security arrangement? That's not believable.
Not much to add to what has already been said, so I'll be brief:
"I, Excretus" is a masterpiece of pure joy.
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"I, Excretus" is a masterpiece of pure joy.
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There's the Enterprise's infamous voice activated Top Secret computer access codes.
funnily enough, apple briefly toyed with those for real: they were introduced in 1999 with Mac OS 9 and they never bothered to port them to Mac OS X in 2001, so they quietly disappeared. Nobody actually used them anyway.There's the Enterprise's infamous voice activated Top Secret computer access codes.
One of the best.
Nice plot setup and follow-through.
Great twists, even when they were going to use known plot tropes they still made them work wonders that pay off and feel very much deserved.
Loved the vignettes, including Naked Time (ROTFL!), Ethics, and Fistful of Datas.
The Borg Babies Bit was a win, as was the innovation of... Borg ductwork! Ditto for other tweaks and homage/parody, especially verbal (the Queen commenting on Boimler).
Not sure how as this one is a bit more silly than usual, but it all holds together for me and uses its wit to excellent effect. In lesser hands it might not have worked as well.
10/10
Nice plot setup and follow-through.
Great twists, even when they were going to use known plot tropes they still made them work wonders that pay off and feel very much deserved.
Loved the vignettes, including Naked Time (ROTFL!), Ethics, and Fistful of Datas.
The Borg Babies Bit was a win, as was the innovation of... Borg ductwork! Ditto for other tweaks and homage/parody, especially verbal (the Queen commenting on Boimler).
Not sure how as this one is a bit more silly than usual, but it all holds together for me and uses its wit to excellent effect. In lesser hands it might not have worked as well.
10/10
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