X-Men: Days of Future Past - Discussion Thread - SPOILERS

[Corran Horn]

I enjoyed it for what it was. There was a lot of fan service but that's ok.

The end basically allows you to pick and choose what events happened and what didn't based on your own tastes.

 

[sojourner]

This may have been brought up before, but from what I could see there are at least 3 distinct timelines in the movie series.

The original timeline of the first 3 films and the Wolverine films.

A timeline that leads to the Sentinel future presented in DOFP.

The new "happy good times" timeline presented at the end of DOFP.

All 3 resulting from different outcomes of the events of 1973.

 

[bbjeg]

Pretty so-so movie that wasn't as good as its predecessor. It's a shame Matthew Vaughn didn't direct.

I thought it was way better than FC which I found thoroughly disappointing and a bit of a wasted opportunity. I find Vaughn to be a highly overrated director and was pleased as punch when I heard Singer was coming back.

I liked X-Men:FC but Singer is the better X-Men director IMO. I too am glad he's back.

So, was Quicksilver's Steampunk proto-Walkman set on super-speed playback so he could rock out to Time in a Bottle while he's doing his speedy thing, or does he project a localized forcefield that adjusts the temporal thingamajiggie around himself (literally time in a bottle) and what he's wearing which is also why the rubber on his shoes doesn't melt? I believe the localized field idea has been used in the comics.

Discuss.

Beats me. It's 1974 technology, more or less. I just figured the song was for our entertainment as much as anything else.

Has anyone ever pressed fast forward and play at the same time on their Walkman? It plays at high speeds. With a dual end audio auxiliary cable and another cassette to record on, Quicksilver could record that high speed audio and repeat the process until it's fast enough to listen to while running.

 

[Shazam!]

The original timeline of the first 3 films and the Wolverine films.

A timeline that leads to the Sentinel future presented in DOFP.

One and the same, surely, considering The Wolverine's post-credits bit.

 

[Shazam!]

Last Stand post-credits

 

[sojourner]

The original timeline of the first 3 films and the Wolverine films.

A timeline that leads to the Sentinel future presented in DOFP.

One and the same, surely, considering The Wolverine's post-credits bit.

Still doesn't quite fit with the timeline of events where the sentinels are activated in 1973 in the DOFP past.

 

[Shazam!]

I imagine the Sentinels were probably around for a few months and then shelved due to lack of funding. Then X-Men 1,2,3 and The Wolverine movies happened and the sentinels were brought back

Spoiler: ...

hence Xavier and Magneto turning up at the end of The Wolverine

There is a sentinel head in the Last Stand (albeit in the Danger Room) so they definitely knew about them.

 

[Ethros]

The sentinels weren't activated in the first 1973. Trask didn't get funding for his program and then Mystique killed him. Her DNA was researched over decades by Trask Industries to get the future Sentinels.

We'd been in the DOFP timeline all along. That's what's kinda cool in a way.



Least that's how I see it and believe it to be inferred.

 

[Shazam!]

That too, but I'm still pretty convinced that the sentinels were activated at some point or at least tried to be brought back, hence the different design in the Danger Room scenario. Unless Beast or whoever just decided to redsign them for the heck of it.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Promotional materials labeled the future models as Mark 10.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Warpath and Sunspot were both New Mutants, so technically we had two.

True. ETA: Was Siryn ever with the NM, or did she come in after the name-change? She was in X2 (another continuity issue-- How does Sean Cassidy have a teen daughter in the early '00s if he was killed in the 60's?)

Speaking of Sunspot and Warpath, Fox has already announced that they're developing an X-Force film, so I wonder if those two were included in DoFP as a sort of soft tie-in to that future movie.

That would be very cool. And I imagine that "X-Force" is a more marketable name than "New Mutants", anyway.

I think Cannonball and Wolfsbane would both work on screen as well, but Karma and Moonstar's powers are probably too similar (in that they are both psionic based), so one of them (at least) would get the ax.

Magik's origin would make an interesting movie. Magma has a unique power-set that would be cool to see visualized. Boom-Boom? Rusty? Skids? Cypher (for bullet bait?)?

Cable, of course. I despise Deadpool, so I'd rather they not go there (Vain hope, I know).

 

[sojourner]

Cannonball - the mutant with the mental tick that he had to say "I'm invulnerable while I'm blastin" at least once per minute.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Moonstar is both also an Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. and a Valkyrie from Asgard.

If they didn't say that she was a mutant, she could guest on that TV show and do an X-Men movie where she failed to remind another that she sees dead people.

Syrin didn't hook up with the New Mutants until after they became X-Force, however she was in the Fallen Angels with Boomboom, Warlock and Sunspot.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Cannonball - the mutant with the mental tick that he had to say "I'm invulnerable while I'm blastin" at least once per minute.

One of a number of "Claremont-isms" that CBR recently spotlighted. This particular one is number 3.

 

[sojourner]

I swear that line represented %30 of the dialog of each issue of New Mutants.

 

[Pauln6]

Warpath and Sunspot were both New Mutants, so technically we had two.

True. ETA: Was Siryn ever with the NM, or did she come in after the name-change? She was in X2 (another continuity issue-- How does Sean Cassidy have a teen daughter in the early '00s if he was killed in the 60's?)

Speaking of Sunspot and Warpath, Fox has already announced that they're developing an X-Force film, so I wonder if those two were included in DoFP as a sort of soft tie-in to that future movie.

That would be very cool. And I imagine that "X-Force" is a more marketable name than "New Mutants", anyway.

I think Cannonball and Wolfsbane would both work on screen as well, but Karma and Moonstar's powers are probably too similar (in that they are both psionic based), so one of them (at least) would get the ax.

Magik's origin would make an interesting movie. Magma has a unique power-set that would be cool to see visualized. Boom-Boom? Rusty? Skids? Cypher (for bullet bait?)?

I think Jubilee, Boom Boom, and Moonstar all appeared as extras in X1 or X2 didn't they?

Obviously Banshee didn't really die but it was an odd throwaway for one of the few characters with more interesting and fun powers. They should have just featured him and had his powers burn out early on like in the comics. It's my main gripe about the movie.

 

[Turtletrekker]

^You are correct about Jubilee and Moonstar. (Jubilee, however, was never with the NM). However, Boom-Boom (at least according to the Marvel Movie and X-Men Movie Wikis) only appeared as a name (Tabitha Smith) on Stryker's computer screen.

 

[Trekker4747]

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[Guy Gardener]

They specifically targeted 1972.

Why not go back a couple more years and save the Brotherhood or Kennedy?

Trask would have zero traction trying to sell a sentinel program to a mutant president.

 

[Unicron]

I think Cannonball and Wolfsbane would both work on screen as well, but Karma and Moonstar's powers are probably too similar (in that they are both psionic based), so one of them (at least) would get the ax.

I'd probably disagree, as their original powers are both psionically based but they work completely differently. Karma can project her mind into someone else's body and control it, while Moonstar could create illusions based on someone's fears, which would only seem realistic to that specific person. Her powers fluctuated a lot before M-Day, so depending on how many powers a movie wanted to include, I'd imagine they'd be easy to tell apart. Moonstar also trained herself to create weapons of psionic energy, which is a power similar to Psylocke's dagger but not something Karma can do on her own.