Captain America: The Winter Soldier Discussion Thread - SPOILERS
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I'm just hoping the UK won't fuck up the Avengers 2 title the way they did with the first one. As if the core audience would mistake a 2012 major motion picture series with a 1966 television show that it largely unheard of anymore.
Then again, "Age of Ultron" is not really likely to be mixed up.
Then again, "Age of Ultron" is not really likely to be mixed up.
I suspect that for a longish while now, most UK viewers understand the difference between the two Avengers groups.
They always did, but the UK marketing division thought they'd be too stupid to realise and had it renamed "Marvels The Avengers Assemble", making the studio render a new opening title card and reprint all the covers just for them.
Then edited and censored it too. So I have the American BD instead.
Well if they called it something like "Captain America: The Return of Hydra", it'd somewhat undermine the third act twist, no? It's pretty clear the "Winter Soldier" subtitle is a red herring to get you looking in one direction so the film makers can pull a fast one. Pretty much what they did with The Mandarin in IM3.
Plus, the post credits clearly show they're not done with this character yet. This was just his (re)introduction.
Random thoughts:
Loved the Pulp Fiction easter egg. Very funny and the full quote is surprisingly appropriate.
Liked that they had a male/female buddy movie with no question of a romance there. I disagree with others who say Agent 13 should ave been there instead. It would have felt very cheep and out of character for Steve to fall for another woman so soon (for him) after Peggy. Plus, as we see she's still alive.
I'm curious to see what kind of a role Agent Hill is going to have with Stark Industries. Is she going undercover like Fury, or is her identity out in the open?
So is cyber Zola the clairvoyant or what? Curious of the original copy of him was left unattended like that. From what Pierce says it seems it was the only one he had access to.
BTW: an old decomissioned WW2 era SHIELD facility re-purposed to nefarious ends by shadowy faction within SHIELD itself...does that sound like T.A.H.I.T.I. to anyone else? If so, then Zola has had access to (probably) Kree DNA. That can't be good. Also, I guess we now know who's idea "phase 2" was.
Interesting that Red Skull didn't pop up. I gather a lot of fans were putting money on Pierce being him in disguise. So I guess now the smart money is on him turning up in the GotG post-credits teaser.
What's wrong with working for Stark? She could become head of Security there.
To be fair, Mr. Islam didn`t do himself any favors by saying what he said about Salman Rushdie, so that may have played a factor.
Except that she was shown working at the front desk of one of their HR offices.
Certainly, she's far more qualified for security work...
I don't think she was working in HR, she was waiting in HR for an interview.
That was Hailey Atwell in CGI? Wow, that was pretty good. During the scene I was going back and forth wondering if it was a different actress or if they used aging make-up. I dismissed the make-up because I didn't see Atwell in her either.
I figured that they called it "The Winter Soldier" because they had to call it something and that seemed cool enough.
I really loved this movie. It easily beats IM3 and Thor 2 to be the best movie of Phase 2. Great writing and some of the BEST fight scenes ever in a superhero movie. The shield action was greatly improved from TFA and Avengers.
I agree.
Exactly. That was her applying for a job at Stark.
Remember, the single character films largely set up plots moving toward the center--the Avengers movies. That includes just establishing Winter Soldier for future appearances. It was enough that he time as a killer was on screen, then his returning memories of his WW2 life/friendship with Rogers. That will milked in future films, of course.
Yes, but its a character identification for the Marvel nerds who know the character as "Winter Solider," plus it still implies something dangerous--even if the origin of the term is lost on most audiences.
The fact she was wired up to a polygraph and giving the usual fake smiles to questions asked was very clear.
But, it will be interesting to see where she ends up at SI, considering that's going to be the focal point for AoU next year.
I agree - it looked so real I thought it was simply an older actress.
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