I do look men's fragrances quite a lot, and have never understood why there should be strict divisions in it... that's like classifying certain foods as male or female. I find it silly. In fact, in many countries, this division doesn't exist at all.
Ladies, are there "guy" things that you like/enjoy?
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^^ I like flowery soaps. And air fresheners with scents like honeysuckle and orange blossom. I'm not sure if that's feminine or not.
And, at this point, we're just going around in circles.
I'm not aggressive. I have no interest in being aggressive. Although I would like to hunt down and kill the person who turned "testosterone" and "estrogen" into political cliches.
Liberal, yes; Left Wing, no.
You seriously haven't noticed this? Or encountered the zillions of people who have been trying to correct the situation since at least the Civil Rights Era? Actually, pretty much throughout human history, to some degree....
Yes, thank you, that is the point. Labels are simple. People are complicated.
Which allows them to... be who they are.
I'm using the term gender identity the way it's always been used. In any case, however you want to use it, the topic of the thread and the conversation is pretty clear.
And they are all individuals. Not interchangeable.
And, at this point, we're just going around in circles.
indeed. Which is why it might be a good idea to get back to this thread's original topic. The other aspects of gender identity, social roles etc. might perhaps be better discussed in a thread of their own in TNZ.
I make up for your slip by preferring "masculine" herbal notes like sage or thyme
I think that'd count as "girl things" (in the sense the expression is ordinarily used).
I make up for your slip by preferring "masculine" herbal notes like sage or thyme
Good idea, why don't you go "down there" open up the thread and see what happens.
^Ours were mostly classic lego, but I did have a Robin Hood set and a Pirate ship set which I adored, and combined to make a pirate ship with tree houses running between the masts.
My brothers had a lot of the early 70s sets, but the pieces were so generic you could use them for your own creations as well. That was one advantage of more classic Lego over the current sets. The current ones may look more realistic, but the pieces aren't nearly as interchangeable, if at all.
I used to do pen & paper roleplaying as well, but I never considered it to be a "guy" thing. In my group we were 3 boys and 3 girls. If other people thought it was a strange hobby, then because roleplaying in general was considered to be "geeky".
Someone mentioned knives and swords. This is something I'm fascinated by too. I always wanted my own sword hanging on the wall, but a good one is so incredible expensive.
Yesterday I remembered this toy I had as kid, although I had a very hard time to play with it. It was usually occupied by my father
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Oh, I just remembered I had Capselas which I guess was more of a guy thing, what with the building and mechanical and electrical stuff. I still have them, actually, although they're in pretty bad shape at this point. I think they were a hand-me-down from my cousin. He never gave up his GI Joes to me, though.
I had both of those, and the big airport set. Actually I had three pirate ships, two large and one more like a sloop or something.
Had tonnes of Lego, shared a lot of it with my sister when we were younger, used to just build whatever we wanted.
I see Lego as a pretty universal toy, she was the one with the pony sets back then, I had the pirate stuff but still.
I didn't have Legos when I was a kid, but I loved playing with them with my (then) very young godchildren. IMO, the classic generic ones encouraged more creativity than the current sets.
I lack the necessary masochistic tendencies
I noticed that many people here mentioned Legos. Are they considered a typically male toy in your countries? In Western Germany in the 60s every child played with them, like with balls or bicycles.
In the 70s there was something more technical, called Fischertechnik, which was supposed to be for older boys. But having grown up with Legos, many girls used them as well
Oh cool, I just found that they are still around =) http://www.fischertechnikwebshop.com/?gclid=CLa6irKfybwCFa-WtAodXksAJA
I lack the necessary masochistic tendencies
I noticed that many people here mentioned Legos. Are they considered a typically male toy in your countries? In Western Germany in the 60s every child played with them, like with balls or bicycles.
In the 70s there was something more technical, called Fischertechnik, which was supposed to be for older boys. But having grown up with Legos, many girls used them as well
Oh cool, I just found that they are still around =) http://www.fischertechnikwebshop.com/?gclid=CLa6irKfybwCFa-WtAodXksAJA
Legos weren't gendered until Lego decided to do the movie tie-ins (Star Wars, Harry Potter, whatever else the kids are into). Never mind that girls like those things too (especially HP). Then they made the "girly" ones. So that's a recent development. As late as the early 90s, when I was doing epic construction work with them, they were still non-gendered. And actually, a lot of those tie-ins are geared toward nerdy dads and granddads, I think, based on my friends' husbands' reactions when I give their kids the Star Wars stuff.
Some of the Fischertechnik pieces look familiar to me. I wonder if there was a US version? Might have to make my mom pick up a few sets when she's in Hamburg in April. More toys for me! I mean, my son. Yeah.
My daughter loves Lego. She's into the Lego Friends sets, but she also likes to build/play with my Minecraft sets. I agree that making so many "boy-focused" lines (Star Wars, etc.) does cut into the appeal for girls.
I lack the necessary masochistic tendencies
Codswallop. The Place Which Must Not Be Named is full of good people and interesting threads. Why it's continually slagged off in other forums is beyond me. You're called out if you do or say something dodgy, but that's all part of being a grownup.
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