What is NBC thinking????

[Turtletrekker]

I still think NBC is making a hell of mistake of taking off Jay Leno when he is still winning his time slot.

But ratings do not equal profit when you are paying your star WAY more than he's worth.

A lot of people bitched when Star Trek: Enterprise was cancelled despite having better ratings than Veronica Mars, which was renewed.

However, Veronica Mars cost a lot less to produce, so it was a more profitable show despite having lower ratings than Enterprise.

 

[Samurai8472]

I don't think so, not this time. Although I could be wrong, I think Jimmy's ratings will be better than Jay's overall, and I think especially so in the younger demographics. If this happes there is no way NBC would want Jay back. Hell, even if Jimmy's rating are the equal of Jay's, I don't think they'll ever have the little weasle back.

Jimmy is also doing alot of pop culture things people actually understand

-He just did that Full House reunion skit. That just make older fans all nostalgic and laugh at their childhood.


-He did that history of rap with Timberlake that struck a chord with 25 to 30 year olds.

"OMG! I remember that beastie boys song!"

-He does alot of things young people understand

"You're mom accidentally wiped your PS3 save file etc because she thought it was dirty stuff etc etc.

Things like that



His first guest on The tonight show will be Will Smith. Expect a "Fresh Prince" moment and maybe a rap battle.

Ratings will be huge.

 

[bigdaddy]

I don't think so, not this time. Although I could be wrong, I think Jimmy's ratings will be better than Jay's overall, and I think especially so in the younger demographics. If this happes there is no way NBC would want Jay back. Hell, even if Jimmy's rating are the equal of Jay's, I don't think they'll ever have the little weasle back.

Jimmy is also doing alot of pop culture things people actually understand

-He just did that Full House reunion skit. That just make older fans all nostalgic and laugh at their childhood.


-He did that history of rap with Timberlake that struck a chord with 25 to 30 year olds.

Umm... as a 25-30 year old we all watched Full House, that was the age of the people watching at the time. So how much "older" is older?

 

[Samurai8472]

Well I meant the kids of the 90's who are now nearing 30 like me.

I was assuming the lower end of Jimmy's audience is 14 to 18 roughly

Kids from the 90's understand the TMNT/Paul Reiser/ Home Improvement gags he does ocassionally

 

[Mr. Adventure]

It will be interesting to see if his show changes going to 11:30. When Letterman and Conan went to 11:30 their late night antics were tampered considerably.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Because the Olympics aren't in September.

I wouldn't worry, he will be back by September.

What is NBC planning for the future of Jay Leno???

He being sent upstate to farm where he can run free.

 

[gblews]

It will be interesting to see if his show changes going to 11:30. When Letterman and Conan went to 11:30 their late night antics were tampered considerably.

Yes, interesting question. But because Fallon is so different from Conan and Dave, I don't think he will need to make as big a change as they did when they switched to 11:30. A lot of Dave and Conan's humor was somewhat dark and full of irony, Fallon doesn't seem to lean in that direction. His thing is more straightforward entertainment.

Oops, does that mean that you young GenXers have more 1950's-1960's cultural leanings?

Now that I think of it, the biggest change we may see is what The Roots play. Watching those guys on the "hallowed" Tonight Show set as the regular band is something I'm really looking forward to seeing. I grew up with first Skitch Henderson leading the Tonight Show band and then Doc Severinson (whose playing, I hated).

 

[wissaboo]

Aren't they moving the show back to New York too? that might be a welcome change.

 

[Bad Bishop]

I understand that Fallon's new Tonight Show will beam from NYC. Seth Meyers' show will originate in New York as well. And we all know that Letterman's show is in NYC. This is a lot of shows competing for the same pool of guests in the Big Apple. Jimmy Kimmel must love the fact that he's losing one major competitor in Los Angeles.

 

[Professor Zoom]

I understand that Fallon's new Tonight Show will beam from NYC. Seth Meyers' show will originate in New York as well. And we all know that Letterman's show is in NYC. This is a lot of shows competing for the same pool of guests in the Big Apple. Jimmy Kimmel must love the fact that he's losing one major competitor in Los Angeles.

If only there was some way to get people from one coast to the other.... hm.....

 

[Yoda]

While it doesn't make much of a difference with guests who are on tour to every talk show to shill whatever shitty movie is soon to splat its fecal failure all over your local cinema screen, the city and guest pool of these shows do seem to give them some of their flavor.

There's also the occasional oddball like Howard Stern who finds it too onerous to be ferried in complete luxury in limos and jets for a few hours to make an appearance on the opposite coast.

 

[bigdaddy]

I don't understand this "Now we have all the people in NYC fighting for guests", it wasn't like the movie stares didn't go on every single talk show to begin with.

 

[DarthTom]

I don't understand this "Now we have all the people in NYC fighting for guests", it wasn't like the movie stares didn't go on every single talk show to begin with.

Anyone that they really want on The tonight Show will hop on Comcast's corporate leer jet and fly from LA to NYC in just a few hours. I doubt finding West Coast guests is even a consideration that they can't work around.

 

[gblews]

I don't understand this "Now we have all the people in NYC fighting for guests", it wasn't like the movie stares didn't go on every single talk show to begin with.

Anyone that they really want on The tonight Show will hop on Comcast's corporate leer jet and fly from LA to NYC in just a few hours. I doubt finding West Coast guests is even a consideration that they can't work around.

Dave, I think had problems getting triple A list guests, but that had nothing to do with him being in NY. Fallon's Late Night guests seemed to imrpove dramatically from where it was when the show started. I don't see being based in NY as a problem at all for most guests.

Besides if that guest wants to be on the highest rated talk show at 11:30, and that is what most of them want, then they'll just have to get on a plane to Jimmy's show.

BTW, Dave must be getting at least a little satisfaction in knowing that he may not have been able to beat Jay in the ratings, but he has managed to outlast him at 11:30.

 

[Owain Taggart]

It will be interesting to see Fallon's ratings vs Letterman when Fallon takes over the show. I do worry somewhat about the move to NY, as the Tonight Show has been in NY for so long, with California being part of its flavour and culture.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Fallon's Late Night guests seemed to imrpove dramatically from where it was when the show started.

Fallon's starting guests used to be extremely SNL heavy betraying its roots.

It will be interesting to see Fallon's ratings vs Letterman when Fallon takes over the show. I do worry somewhat about the move to NY, as the Tonight Show has been in NY for so long, with California being part of its flavour and culture.

Yeah, I think moving is definitely going to give a different flavor to The Tonight Show. It's where I learned of "Burbank".

 

[Owain Taggart]

Heh whoops, just noticed I wrote NY when I meant California in having been there so long. And yeah, at one point they even had a Johnny Carson park close by to the studio. When my Dad and I attended a taping in March though, we couldn't find it. We had tried finding it via address, but it looked to not be there anymore. Just another building instead.

 

[Photoman15]

I still think NBC is making a hell of mistake of taking off Jay Leno when he is still winning his time slot.

Well, it's a smart move for NBC. Leno's contract expires in September. He will want at least as much as he's been getting if not more.

Putting Fallon on now, airing each night AFTER the OLYMPICS will give Fallon's TONIGHT SHOW much more exposure than if they waited for September.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Something I've been thinking about. Perhaps it's less of a risk for them to keep Fallon in NY and move the Tonight Show there, in case Fallon doesn't work out. That way, they don't have to move him and his family, like they did with Conan. There might still be a possibility of having it move back to California if successful after a year or so. It would make sense to test the waters before making such a commitment, something they've probably learned from what happened with Conan.

 

[bigdaddy]

Something I've been thinking about. Perhaps it's less of a risk for them to keep Fallon in NY and move the Tonight Show there, in case Fallon doesn't work out. That way, they don't have to move him and his family, like they did with Conan. There might still be a possibility of having it move back to California if successful after a year or so. It would make sense to test the waters before making such a commitment, something they've probably learned from what happened with Conan.

They are not moving the show. They are building him a brand new studio that will cost millions, they won't move him to CA after a little while unless he himself wants to move.