The Defiance Thread - News about the Show and Game

[Guy Gardener]

You can drop an unboiled chicken egg to no ill effect from a 4 story building if it's inside a cardboard box suspended in pantyhose.

Bad enough things happen in Earth labs that they can have, or should have independent lifesupport. On an alien ship however that life support might include independent structural integrity fields and inertial dampeners... How do spaceships work in this fiction? Did they use hyperspace, warp realspace or use relativistic speed.

The trip took 5000 years.

Even if relativistically the trip took a month from their perspective, they'd still use suspended animation rather than figure out how to carry additional food and water for millions of people for one month.

Did any one stay awake for portions of the trip if it did take 5000 years flat?

 

[Ayelbourne]

What gets me is, given that horrific crash we saw at the end of the last episode, how could the flimsy plastic bag the guy was hanging in have possibly survived the impact?

Inertial dampeners.

 

[shivkala]

He mentioned beads, which we have seen Stahma wearing in the bath before, in the pilot or episode 2. This was a different garment, more a pair of fabric straps spirit-gummed over her not-fit-for-TV bits.

Ah, thanks. I wonder if the beads serve another function, other than just decoration, then, if she chose not to wear them while bathing alone.

Actually that hasn't been resolved yet. Nolan was just confronting her, demanding she account for her war crimes, when the woman came in and fell sick. (And yeah, Yewll must be a hell of a doctor if she can deduce a plague from a single sick patient.) Presumably this thread will play out next week as Yewll's indispensability during the plague convinces the others to excuse her past crimes.

That does seem to be the way to go. However, minus the blood, Yewll was treating a patient when Nolan entered and making disapproving noises. Having seen the game commercials, I assumed that patient had symptoms of the plague (possibly very early symptoms that could have been plague-related or just as easily some other virus/illness). Then the woman came in with definitive symptoms, which only confirmed it for Yewll. The game trailer (see below) hints at them trying to warn someone about the outbreak (The trailer makes it clear that a group nearby heard it, but I don't know if it was for them or broadcast for a larger audience). Yewll might have heard the warning and knew it would only be a matter of time before it hit Defiance, therefore, instead of diagnosing a plague based on one patient, she could have been using the information in the warning. Being Indogene, she might have been hooked up to some technology which allowed her to receive information quicker. Perhaps her technological implants allow for communication with other Indogenes, quite possible the one who dies in the trailer.

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2T09pqwD0Q[/yt]

Apparently, this is Defiance's way of bringing zombies or zombie-like creatures into the show/game.

She could've heard him walking through the grass, or turned enough to glimpse movement out of the corner of her eye.

Well, that's my point, it didn't seem a "I see movement" type of reaction, but more of a "I know that's Gordon" reaction. Again, I'm allowing for him saying something that we couldn't hear, but either way, it's cliche. I'm still wondering if it's real or Amanda's fantasy of what's happening. The show did play it as if it was real, but they stopped short of making it definitive.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm wondering how Stahma gets upstairs into Kenya's boudoir unseen.

There must be back routes or pulley driven lifts for important people that don't want to be known to be frequenting the Need Want. Certainly even if the Need Want is a bar used by locals who have no interest in the brothel side of it it's not a place that Stahma would ever go. Even thought those that work there would no how to keep their mouths shut for business the gossip from other customoers would explode if she was seen there with any regularity.

Show us the hidden passage!!

 

[Jolaris]

Well, it wasn't much a surprise that Doc was revealed to be an Evil Scientist during the Pale Wars, but I still like it.

And Zombies? Sure, why not? As things are going now it will probably be revealed that it was all a biological weapon created by our dear Doc and all hell will break loose between the Votans and the Earth Republic and Defiance is caught in the middle.

This weeks Doc: "Cool it Tiger. I'm too old for you."

And the episode was channeling Star Wars a few times:

"You want me to join the evil empire?"
"We're not an empire! You will be given regional governership."

"Control your hatred!"

Oh, and I think Defiance is a bit bitter that it is not on HBO. There is a lot of bathing but since there can't be sex they'll talk alot about sex instead WHILE bathing.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I was writing a wonderful post about pubic hair in my head during this scene when suddenly it was revealed she was bathing in some flim flam lederhosen thing which is RIDICULOUS. Or maybe she's trying to mitigate her sin of bathing alone? Look here, I'm not really doing this, I have sorta clothes on! Yeah that's it.

I thought in last week's episode Alak made reference to a flimsy piece of clothing that Christie would be wearing while bathing and therefore not be totally naked. That's what I figured Stahma was wearing.

I think you are correct. However if you look at the pic it's clear they wanted us to think we were seeing naked everything. Now maybe they used shadows for that or maybe the flimflam comes with camel toe but it's kind of annoying. Either be the full frontal show or not.

Oh, and I think Defiance is a bit bitter that it is not on HBO. There is a lot of bathing but since there can't be sex they'll talk alot about sex instead WHILE bathing.

Exactly.

Oh and I do feel sorry for Christie, parents in law from a white white hell.

 

[Mr. Adventure]

Maybe that's what their race looks like naked?

The soft porn shots every week are distracting (if not exactly unwelcome...), the show which feels like a throwback to 90's syndication, just isn't edgy enough to really warrant it, it seems out of place.

Dumb question, is film still readily available? I can't remember the last time I've seen anyone use a film camera.

 

[Mistral]

He mentioned beads, which we have seen Stahma wearing in the bath before, in the pilot or episode 2. This was a different garment, more a pair of fabric straps spirit-gummed over her not-fit-for-TV bits.

Ah, thanks. I wonder if the beads serve another function, other than just decoration, then, if she chose not to wear them while bathing alone.



That does seem to be the way to go. However, minus the blood, Yewll was treating a patient when Nolan entered and making disapproving noises. Having seen the game commercials, I assumed that patient had symptoms of the plague (possibly very early symptoms that could have been plague-related or just as easily some other virus/illness). Then the woman came in with definitive symptoms, which only confirmed it for Yewll. The game trailer (see below) hints at them trying to warn someone about the outbreak (The trailer makes it clear that a group nearby heard it, but I don't know if it was for them or broadcast for a larger audience). Yewll might have heard the warning and knew it would only be a matter of time before it hit Defiance, therefore, instead of diagnosing a plague based on one patient, she could have been using the information in the warning. Being Indogene, she might have been hooked up to some technology which allowed her to receive information quicker. Perhaps her technological implants allow for communication with other Indogenes, quite possible the one who dies in the trailer.



Apparently, this is Defiance's way of bringing zombies or zombie-like creatures into the show/game.



Well, that's my point, it didn't seem a "I see movement" type of reaction, but more of a "I know that's Gordon" reaction. Again, I'm allowing for him saying something that we couldn't hear, but either way, it's cliche. I'm still wondering if it's real or Amanda's fantasy of what's happening. The show did play it as if it was real, but they stopped short of making it definitive.

I think the woman saw a shadow on her sheets.

As for the plague, it seems to have originated in San Francisco area(in the game) and is now moving across the continent. So the doctor may have already had warning...one of the relentlessly repetitive soldiers guarding the plague victims (in game) says something like "If this gets to Manhattan it'll be a disaster for the Republic" -hinting that SF is the starting point...

 

[JD]

I enjoyed this episode. I figured something would go wrong with him, but I did not expect what the whole thing with him being a Votan. I did like exploring the doctor's past, and the stuff with Nolan, Rafe, the astronaut and Amanda at the Cawley house.

 

[intrinsical]

So far my favorite character is the indogene doctor, she just oozes character in the limited amount of screen time her character has. Its why I'm looking forward to next week's plague episode.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Really? I'm looking forward tot he episode where they turn on her, and as she begins to run it becomes clear that she's spent that last 5 years turning defiance into a death trap for everyone else but her.

"I experimented on humans" is hardly the great admisson to her secret history I was looking forward to. I experimented on humans was a given from the pilot. In DC Comics 20 years ago US Immigration had the Green lantern Kilowog fill out a verying prying questioneer about his intentions on Earth... "Have I ever eaten a human being? What sort of crazy question is that? Ridiculous?! Do you know what humans taste like? Yuck!"

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Ideally that reveal should be just a teaser for "I am still experimenting on humans."

 

[intrinsical]

So I cannot like characters such as the Terminator, the Borg Queen or Hannibal Lector simply because they are evil and have killed lots of human beings? What sort of logic is that?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Who said you couldn't like them?

 

[auntiehill]

I think, of the secondary characters, the doctor is the most interesting. The actress is really doing a good job, stealing every scene she's in, however brief it may be. I hope they don't get rid of her any time soon.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

If I Should Leave this World Alive: I'm glad this was more politics than plague, I was never a fan of plague storylines. Datak was satisfyingly ruthless and I hope he becomes mayor. He will me much more interesting than the current one. I'd like to see a Votan majority in power with humans very much in the minority.

And the title, is there still away off this planet?

I want to live in the three story shipping container house!





The Doctor, or "doctor" as Nicolette the Bad says is getting more and more interesting. Let's hope she doesn't end up all inculcated with decent human values and get in bed with Nicolette as a mole. I want differing agendas and self interest. I loved how Nicolette while telling the story of the McCawley mom casually drops in her affair. Let's just grey up everyone, yes yes..

 

[Guy Gardener]

When Nolan said 6000 souls, it was unclear if he was talking about total population of Defiance or just the human population.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I had that question too. I think it's the total population but he said it thinking of humans. He's not really given to precision.

 

[The Wormhole]

I had some worries about this week's episode thinking it was going to be a generic plague show, but in the end they did some interesting things with the story, and Datak is quickly becoming one of my favourites. Yeah, I hope he does win the election. Also, if he does win, I want them to keep him there, not have him stay long enough until he commits some monumental screw-up resulting in Amanda returning to power. Oh, who am I kidding, that's probably exactly how that's going to play out.

Also, I'm actually kind of sad to see Amanda's ex-boyfriend from E-REP go. I may not have liked him that much when they first introduced him, but he was starting to grow on me.

 

[bryce]

I had some worries about this week's episode thinking it was going to be a generic plague show, but in the end they did some interesting things with the story, and Datak is quickly becoming one of my favourites. Yeah, I hope he does win the election. Also, if he does win, I want them to keep him there, not have him stay long enough until he commits some monumental screw-up resulting in Amanda returning to power. Oh, who am I kidding, that's probably exactly how that's going to play out.

Also, I'm actually kind of sad to see Amanda's ex-boyfriend from E-REP go. I may not have liked him that much when they first introduced him, but he was starting to grow on me.

Yeah, this was the first episode that actually seemed genuinely *interesting* to me...and where the characters seemed interesting.

Especially Datak. And the Indogene Doctor lady.