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Incredible inconsistency in "Concerning Flight"

Wasn't there another episode that claimed that there were places on Earth where tourists got "mugged", but it was just part of the authentic experience?
 
Wasn't there another episode that claimed that there were places on Earth where tourists got "mugged", but it was just part of the authentic experience?

The Ferengi who set up that scheme was smart. ;)

That aside, I seem to remember that from somewhere too but can't figure out what episode it was. So now I'm curious.
 
from VOY Gravity

NOSS: Tu be veg!
PARIS: Er, sorry?
NOSS: Sen. Neeba sen.
PARIS: Either the universal translator's offline or I hit my head harder than I thought.
NOSS: Ruk.
PARIS: All right, take it easy. All right, all right. Take it easy.
NOSS: Fita!
PARIS: This? Listen, I really need this.
NOSS: Fita ur neeto.
PARIS: Okay, okay. First day in town and I've already been mugged.

It's just something Tom says.
 
Wasn't there another episode that claimed that there were places on Earth where tourists got "mugged", but it was just part of the authentic experience?

There is a storyline somewhere out there in the ether, but I'm pretty sure not Star Trek, where people pay to have the experience of being kidnapped.

In Dune there is a rich and powerful man who infects himself with diseases for his own amusement.

Also people go camping VOLUNTARILY.
 
Yes, it's the first episode with Sandrine's. Tom tells Harry he found the real Sandrine's when his wallet was stolen and Harry is shocked that he was mugged on Earth. Then he says it's just for the tourists and they give you your wallet back.
 
Oh give me a break. Magic college know it all psychic powers do not apply to a fictional universe, or even that accurately to the real one.

Just like in the real world, everybody who has a good job now either spent years in crappy jobs first or have rich grandparents. Everybody I know who is doing well financially now had to spend a few years at one point as a waiter/waitress, a grocery store clerk, an inventory counter, or something like that, and they got their good jobs later. Why would it be any different in a world with replicators?

In this fictional universe that is, and I can not stress this enough, is not required to conform to your own politics, it's likely that there is very little crime on Earth and major Federation planets. However, outlying colonies and non-aligned worlds where they don't have replicators or steady streams of resources do still have all those social problems.
 
Actually, given that the worst punishment we've seen in VOY for crime seems to be an all-expenses paid vacation in New Zealand, I'm surprised the crime isn't a lot higher.

The punishment is not too light.

Peter Jackson's estate has continued to milk Tolkien into the 24th century. The quality of the adaptations is at an all-time low; currently they're on their fourth remake of "A New Shadow." The inmates are forced to assist making them.

Federation attorneys have filed a class-action lawsuit on behalf of the inmates, citing "cruel and unusual punishment" and "crimes against humanity".
 
Yes, it's the first episode with Sandrine's. Tom tells Harry he found the real Sandrine's when his wallet was stolen and Harry is shocked that he was mugged on Earth. Then he says it's just for the tourists and they give you your wallet back.

Thank you, I knew I wasn't crazy. :)
 
Actually, Tom specified that they give you back your wallet "most of the time".

PARIS: I found this place just after my pocket was picked walking by the harbour.
KIM: Somebody picked your pocket? On Earth?
PARIS: Oh, they just do it for tourists. They give it back. Most of the time.

I wonder what they're carrying in their wallets in the 24th century. Not currency. Identification, I imagine, but a whole wallet just for an ID card?
 
When they talk about money by accident they call it "credits".

Methinks the Federation's people are recognized by Federation technology "somehow" and there's a giant balance sheet somewhere making sure that no one abuses the system even though they are already technically offered infinite resources.
 
No one lives in a bottle. The Federation has to use money when dealing with other species, and so any Star Ship would have to have a vault... Although you have to wonder with replicators as they are, how they don't find themselves guilty of counterfeiting when visiting low tech worlds.

Look at Archer, he had to strip the platinum off his ships plumbing to pay for some crap at one point.

Starships might be fine, but lone humans wandering out there in space preaching about how money is made up and they should be allowed to take anything they want and that it not stealing, must be considered the trash of the Galaxy.
 
I'm pretty sure Rom got something in his ear once and it was extremely painful.

But that's not the right answer for this forum, the right answer is EAR SEX. I bet they have special slippery wax as lubricant.
 
Well, I'm being a little melodramatic in the title, but bear with me.

After the aliens transport Voyager's stuff, including the computer core, Paris says, "It feels like we just got mugged."

How would he know what it feels like to get mugged? I thought the Federation was a post-scarcity utopia where they didn't have money, much less wallets or criminals.

It really stood out for me because I think that even now "mug" in the meaning of being robbed on the street is passing out of American English. I remember hearing the word a lot in the 1980s, but don't remember the last time I saw it in print or heard it in conversation.

I guess you could rationalize that Paris, as a student of the 1950s, used archaic slang, but then why would he expect anyone to understand him?




Also, if anyone here goes into television production, a humble word of advice. If you've got a heavyset actor, and he's wearing a long white beard...don't dress him in red. Ever.

Paris himself once told Harry IIRC that "they" mug tourists in Marseille for fun
 
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