Shilliam Watner
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Give your estimations. I can't imagine how many.
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About How Many People Perished In [SPOILERS]?
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Emergency automated mass evac transporters installed in every dwelling, place of business or industrial facility licensed for a capacity greater than 50 persons, per government-mandated public safety regulation.
Everyone in those buildings was rematerializing in Dodger Stadium by the time Vengeance started skipping across the waters.
Everyone in those buildings was rematerializing in Dodger Stadium by the time Vengeance started skipping across the waters.
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Hopefully not as many as we might think. While obviously none of this would appear on screen, I can't imagine the government not having some sort of contingency to move people quickly away from a pending disaster, especially post-Nero. Perhaps they can enact a protocol in which they scan the projected area of impact and say "lock onto every life sign you can and start beaming anyone and everyone out of there." It's conceivable that they even have a computer that can do it automatically.
Having said that, I sincerely doubt they could move everyone because a) short warning, and b) heavily populated area and c) transporters in this universe seem to have trouble getting a lock on moving targets, and with civilians panicking, there would definitely be lots of people running away. I'd still estimate the death toll to be several thousand people.
Having said that, I sincerely doubt they could move everyone because a) short warning, and b) heavily populated area and c) transporters in this universe seem to have trouble getting a lock on moving targets, and with civilians panicking, there would definitely be lots of people running away. I'd still estimate the death toll to be several thousand people.
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Shilliam Watner
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If the World Trade Centers were taken out later in the day rather than early in the morning, I think they said the tally would have been around 25,000 people since more people would have been at work. Thank god the planes didn't strike them at a lower level where more people would never had been rescued. I think the San Francisco deaths were probably around a hundred thousand give or take. He took out a lot of buildings.
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I estimate that as many as several million have now been spoiled as to People Perishing in San Francisco. (As a courtesy, please keep spoiler details out of thread titles at least until September or so; there are a number of countries where the movie won't be released until June, July, or—in the case of Japan—the middle of August.)
No way to really tell, because we don't know how many people were in the city (it will likely be more than right now), we don't know what kind of evacuation equipment there was or how much notice they had. It's hard to figure out an equation when you don't have any of the figures for it.
It was a horrifying event. The only thing I can think is that since a year passed between it and Kirk's speech before the relaunch of the Enterprise, one can only think that most of the mourning was over and rebuilding had begun full steam.
In earlier threads, given the angle of the ship hitting Alcatraz, I had it coming ashore somewhere on North Beach.
Assuming it was at about the speed of an airliner when it hit, with all its mass and momentum, it had to create catastrophic damage. Someone with more talent than me may be able to post a scale picture of the Vengeance onto a map of that area of San Francisco to get an idea of what kind of debris path it may have created.
At least tens of thousands had to have died.
Yeah but it's different having civilian casualties as part of a battle, and having a giant starship crash into a city killing thousands instantly.
I think it happened so that they could have the shot of the starship crashing in the trailer.
Khan's enemies had defeated him so he was determined to destroy them.
Isn't that familiar character behavior?
He just didn't have a Genesis device with which to "spit his last breath" at them, so a starship had to do in the pinch.
The man's consistent reaction, when defeated, is to strike out in spite against his adversaries in as destructive a fashion as he can manage. These writers know this guy.
Isn't that familiar character behavior?
He just didn't have a Genesis device with which to "spit his last breath" at them, so a starship had to do in the pinch.
The man's consistent reaction, when defeated, is to strike out in spite against his adversaries in as destructive a fashion as he can manage. These writers know this guy.
The man's consistent reaction, when defeated, is to strike out in spite against his adversaries in as destructive a fashion as he can manage. These writers know this guy.
So why didn't he set the overload, then crash the ship?
