STAR TREK INTO DARKNESS - Grading & Discussion [SPOILERS]

[Oso Blanco]

In one or two novels and in STO it's mentioned as a Kronos moon.

I know that Praxis is a Kronos moon, but is that debris that we see in STID really the remains of Praxis? Could be, but who knows.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

I don't know why, but I liked seeing that the Klingons blew up Praxis earlier.

Wouldn't surprise me if the destroyed moon is somehow connected to Nero's rampage through Klingon space when he was finally escaping instead of exploding 30-40 years later as it was supposed to.

 

[beamMe]

I don't know why, but I liked seeing that the Klingons blew up Praxis earlier.

Wouldn't surprise me if the destroyed moon is somehow connected to Nero's rampage through Klingon space when he was finally escaping instead of exploding 30-40 years later as it was supposed to.

That's a good idea.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm guessing he somehow stole John Harrison's identity and built on what someone else had already started.

John Harrison popped up one year before the movie's events.

Exactly. Genius, eh?

 

[Oso Blanco]

I'm guessing he somehow stole John Harrison's identity and built on what someone else had already started.

John Harrison popped up one year before the movie's events.

Exactly. Genius, eh?

There was no record of a John Harrison until one year before the movie. The point being that Khan couldn't steal the identity from someone who didn't exist.

 

[Therin of Andor]

It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.

"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."

 

[JarodRussell]

So is any of the main characters going to die, leave or turn bad?

What do you think?

They promised us they'd shake things up with the reboot. My guess is that they won't, though. The next film is going to end with all the guys back on the bridge at their familar positions.

Question formulated in August 2012 in this thread. So, M I Rite?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

John Harrison popped up one year before the movie's events.

Exactly. Genius, eh?

There was no record of a John Harrison until one year before the movie. The point being that Khan couldn't steal the identity from someone who didn't exist.

Not only did he steal John Harrison's identity he WIPED John Harrison from all the records. All of them. That's why he was so familiar with the archive that sat atop Section 31, because he was in there wiping.

 

[Commishsleer]

If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people. Or will it go the way of kironide, the cloaking device Kirk and Spock stole, the Organians - revolutionary discoveries that disappeared after each episode.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people.

They should clone him and remove the higher brain functions of the clones so they are just meat machines used for making magic blood.

 

[JarodRussell]

If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people. Or will it go the way of kironide, the cloaking device Kirk and Spock stole, the Organians - revolutionary discoveries that disappeared after each episode.

And it makes you wonder if Khan tried to revive his wife after she'd been killed by Ceti Eels.

It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.

"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."

Yeah, Chewie, punch it! One of the really original catchphrases of Star Trek 2009.

 

[Pingfah]

It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.

"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."

That's completely different.

Perhaps people might reflect on that later, but nobody is going to be taken out of the movie by the lack of cribbed lines and scenes from a different movie, which is one of the big complaints about this film.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

If they know Khan's blood can resurrect the dead do you think they'll just revive Khan every so often to bleed him and resurrect a few people. Or will it go the way of kironide, the cloaking device Kirk and Spock stole, the Organians - revolutionary discoveries that disappeared after each episode.

And it makes you wonder if Khan tried to revive his wife after she'd been killed by Ceti Eels.

It just makes it seem like the writers can't come up with iconic phrases on their own.

"Punch it!"

Honestly, if Orci & Kurtzman avoided all TOS catchphrases, people would say, "They missed a perfect opportunity to throw in some TOS catchphrases here."

Yeah, Chewie, punch it! One of the really original catchphrases of Star Trek 2009.

Stargate also punched it.

Space is full of punching!

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Perhaps people might reflect on that later, but nobody is going to be taken out of the movie by the lack of cribbed lines and scenes from a different movie, which is one of the big complaints about this film.

I completely agree.

I predict Star Wars VII besides having the trademark "bad feeling" line will also contain a trash compactor scene, a hand cutting off scene, someone falling from a great height screaming "noooooooooo..." and the villain saying "I care" at a terribly awkward moment. And that's just in the prologue.

 

[Pingfah]

Oh god, I hadn't even thought what might happen if JJ takes this route with the SW movies

Being direct sequels though, I suspect they might not suffer the same fate.

 

[Michael]

I completely agree.

I predict Star Wars VII besides having the trademark "bad feeling" line will also contain a trash compactor scene, a hand cutting off scene, someone falling from a great height screaming "noooooooooo..." and the villain saying "I care" at a terribly awkward moment. And that's just in the prologue.

I know you're speaking in jest, but after two Star Trek movies full of gratuitous name dropping and catchphrase quoting, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what JJ Abrams Star Wars movie will look like.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Soooo... I knew I had made a prediction about Star Trek XII and I thought it was a really good one and I saved the link so that I could gloat when my prediction came true.

March 24 2011

I predict his love interest will die tragically at the end of the film because of a choice that Kirk makes, a choice in which he puts the Enterprise first. I would bet money on this.

Thank god no one took me up on that one.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I completely agree.

I predict Star Wars VII besides having the trademark "bad feeling" line will also contain a trash compactor scene, a hand cutting off scene, someone falling from a great height screaming "noooooooooo..." and the villain saying "I care" at a terribly awkward moment. And that's just in the prologue.

I know you're speaking in jest, but after two Star Trek movies full of gratuitous name dropping and catchphrase quoting, I'm pretty sure that's exactly what JJ Abrams Star Wars movie will look like.

This is now my NEW prediction which I will one day gloat over.

 

[topas]

Yeah, Chewie, punch it! One of the really original catchphrases of Star Trek 2009.

Technically speaking, "Punch it" was already in ST:TNG. Anyone remembers from what episode this is and who's giving the order:
"Half impulse until we clear the nebula, then punch it up to warp 9." ?

 

[SalvorHardin]

Yeah, Chewie, punch it! One of the really original catchphrases of Star Trek 2009.

Technically speaking, "Punch it" was already in ST:TNG. Anyone remembers from what episode this is and who's giving the order:
"Half impulse until we clear the nebula, then punch it up to warp 9." ?

The Best of Both Worlds 1 by Riker, if I'm not mistaken.