50th Anniversary Story Official Thread

[The Wormhole]

The Whistleblower has posted what he claims is the Anniversary Special plot.

Well now I know who "Whistleblower" is. He's a dillusional poster on GB that goes by the name of R.E.D, who's been trying to push his frankly ridiculous theories about what's "really" happening in the series (including The Doctor being dead since The Big Bang) on people at every possible opportunity.

So, in other words, it's probably fake? A shame, I kind of liked it. But, yeah some of the stuff does seem unlikely, particularly the bit that says the portraits of the past Doctors show some of them aging. In order to do that, they are presumably going to get the surviving actors, showing them as they are now. But it is now confirmed the only previous Doctor to return is Tennant.

 

[Professor Zoom]

I'm so glad that your knowledge of TV production isn't getting in the way of your nerd rage.

Keep up the good work proving my point for me!

Lol. I'll do my best.

 

[Hartzilla2007]

So apparently Moffat's quote about not making the episode a "fanfest" and "looking to the Future" is the official line for making it an 8th Anniversary Special.

If I was Baker I to McGann I'd refuse to take part in any of the 50th Anniversary celebrations that they might be asked to. Moffat casting a brand-new Past Doctor while giving them the Finger really sums the man up perfectly.

Oh, for Pete's sake its not like Moffat is planning on have one of the Doctor's enemies switching bodies with him and their final battle ending with the Doctor beaten and dead when said villain's body dies with the episode ending with the villain still in the Doctor's body saying he'll be better at it than the Doctor ever was effectively both murdering him and stealing his life in the process.

 

[davejames]

As for Matt Smith's regeneration, the way Eleven has been talking and acting since "The Snowmen" has me thinking that he will buy it at some point saving Clara's life. He already blames himself for her Victorian version's death and Oswin saved his life in "Asylum"....he'll give up his life before she dies again. I'm sure of it.

I have to admit it does kind of seem like it's heading in that direction, with this season being Eleven's swan song. Although I really hope it's not, because I'd still love to see a lot more with Smith and Coleman together.

Of course we know he's in the 50th special after the Trenzalore episode, so presumably he at least survives that event....

 

[Starkers]

Off topic: It's Tintin! Not TinTin, Tin-Tin, or any other crazy way to spell it! [/rant]

Now that I have that off my chest, I have to express my disappointment that none of the classic Doctors (to include Paul McGann) are not returning. I'm disillusioned enough to grasp straws in the belief that DWM is misleading the fans (or themselves being misled) out of hope they'll make a brief, surprise in appearance, but I know it's highly unlikely.

That being said, I'm not going to prejudge the special. We already know of a lot of great things that will be in the special, and while they're not the original actors, I'm excited about their inclusion. Only time will tell how good this special actually is.

Oh come on, why wait when you can judge it now and judge it harshly

Trouble is some people have had it in for Moffat since he started (since before then if I recall correctly) so they're actually really glad there are no classic Doctors in the special. Let's be honest some people wouldn't be happy even if Moffat did incorporate every surviving Doctor and managed to resurrect the first three into the bargain, plus include every living companion.

But I guess everyone needs a hobby...

Anyway gonna duck out of this thread now, partly cos the circular arguments get somewhat tiring, but mainly cos, you know, I'd like there to be some surprises left when I actually watch the darn thing.

I may love it, I may hate it, it may merely be 'ok' but that's a decision I'll make after I see it. At the risk of going all Kevin Keegan though I'd love it, LOVE IT, if midway through Tom Baker and Peter Davison suddenly appeared

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Oh, for Pete's sake its not like Moffat is planning on have one of the Doctor's enemies switching bodies with him and their final battle ending with the Doctor beaten and dead when said villain's body dies with the episode ending with the villain still in the Doctor's body saying he'll be better at it than the Doctor ever was effectively both murdering him and stealing his life in the process.

"I shall be the Superior Doctor!"

Honestly, I could see Moffat doing that story arc. Fortunately, Dan Slott got there first and Moffat would look like he was ripping off a comic book that has less than 1 percent of his audience.

 

[Mad Jack Wolfe]

I agree that would be the most ideal, but to me it's not "disrespecting the past" if they aren't in there.

I'm never going to able to see an appearance by Tom Baker's scarf as somehow an adequate replacement for an appearance by Tom Baker, however they try and spin it.

This could work, though. Put the scarf on Amy. And that's the extent of her costume.

 

[Venardhi]

Trouble is some people have had it in for Moffat since he started (since before then if I recall correctly) so they're actually really glad there are no classic Doctors in the special. Let's be honest some people wouldn't be happy even if Moffat did incorporate every surviving Doctor and managed to resurrect the first three into the bargain, plus include every living companion.

Maybe you've been on a different internet than me, but it seemed like Moffat only lost his shine fairly recently for the vast majority of his detractors. People were very excited when he took over, they gave him the benefit of the doubt on the rough spots of his first season, chalked the issues with the second up to 'trying something different' and it was really only when he continued to make the same 'mistakes' through the third that the cries came up for him to move along.

Personally I think he is one of the best episode writers the show has ever seen, but in an editorial/oversight capacity he simply doesn't have the restraint to sort the wheat from the chaff before throwing it all on the table. Perhaps more importantly, the scheduling/production issues hint strongly at his being an artist that works best with deadlines and someone else making the important calls.

I'm very much enjoying this series/season as a whole, minus a few smaller-than-usual missteps, so it is possible he has found his footing and these concerns are unfounded. I do find it a bit strange, if not quite 'upsetting', that the original series seems to be getting the shaft a bit here. Tennant is all fine and dandy, but celebrating the 50th anniversary with just him feels like a bit of a cheat and if the original plan was in fact to have him and Eccleston then it looks like even more of a celebration of "nuWho" than the show as a whole.

Debating how good a job the man is doing is about as productive as arguing how Timelords reproduce or the nature of his relationship with River, but to jump all the way to "well some of you wouldn't be happy with anything!" you may as well be saying nothing.

 

[Sindatur]

Trouble is some people have had it in for Moffat since he started (since before then if I recall correctly) so they're actually really glad there are no classic Doctors in the special. Let's be honest some people wouldn't be happy even if Moffat did incorporate every surviving Doctor and managed to resurrect the first three into the bargain, plus include every living companion.

Maybe you've been on a different internet than me, but it seemed like Moffat only lost his shine fairly recently for the vast majority of his detractors. People were very excited when he took over, they gave him the benefit of the doubt on the rough spots of his first season, chalked the issues with the second up to 'trying something different' and it was really only when he continued to make the same 'mistakes' through the third that the cries came up for him to move along.

Personally I think he is one of the best episode writers the show has ever seen, but in an editorial/oversight capacity he simply doesn't have the restraint to sort the wheat from the chaff before throwing it all on the table. Perhaps more importantly, the scheduling/production issues hint strongly at his being an artist that works best with deadlines and someone else making the important calls.

I'm very much enjoying this series/season as a whole, minus a few smaller-than-usual missteps, so it is possible he has found his footing and these concerns are unfounded. I do find it a bit strange, if not quite 'upsetting', that the original series seems to be getting the shaft a bit here. Tennant is all fine and dandy, but celebrating the 50th anniversary with just him feels like a bit of a cheat and if the original plan was in fact to have him and Eccleston then it looks like even more of a celebration of "nuWho" than the show as a whole.

Debating how good a job the man is doing is about as productive as arguing how Timelords reproduce or the nature of his relationship with River, but to jump all the way to "well some of you wouldn't be happy with anything!" you may as well be saying nothing.

Eh, I've been reading the same Internet as Starkers. There is always a certain faction upset by any changes (As well as a certain faction elated that the change finally came). This goes for Show Runner, Doctor Actor and Companions.

 

[Neroon]

I tend to be rather easy-going when it comes to this debate between fans of various generations of the show. Part of that is because of the near animosity between some members of each camp. Along those lines, here is an interesting article I read just this morning... in which I agreed with a the author a fair amount - and I have thoroughly enjoyed Moffat's term as showrunner.

http://www.hypable.com/2013/04/30/steven-moffat-doctor-who-showrunner/

 

[Mr Awe]

Trouble is some people have had it in for Moffat since he started (since before then if I recall correctly) so they're actually really glad there are no classic Doctors in the special. Let's be honest some people wouldn't be happy even if Moffat did incorporate every surviving Doctor and managed to resurrect the first three into the bargain, plus include every living companion.

Maybe you've been on a different internet than me, but it seemed like Moffat only lost his shine fairly recently for the vast majority of his detractors. People were very excited when he took over, they gave him the benefit of the doubt on the rough spots of his first season, chalked the issues with the second up to 'trying something different' and it was really only when he continued to make the same 'mistakes' through the third that the cries came up for him to move along.

Personally I think he is one of the best episode writers the show has ever seen, but in an editorial/oversight capacity he simply doesn't have the restraint to sort the wheat from the chaff before throwing it all on the table. Perhaps more importantly, the scheduling/production issues hint strongly at his being an artist that works best with deadlines and someone else making the important calls.

I do find it a bit strange, if not quite 'upsetting', that the original series seems to be getting the shaft a bit here. Tennant is all fine and dandy, but celebrating the 50th anniversary with just him feels like a bit of a cheat and if the original plan was in fact to have him and Eccleston then it looks like even more of a celebration of "nuWho" than the show as a whole.

This matches up with my recollection as well. Moffat wrote some great scripts for RTD, so people (in general) were thrilled when Moffat took over. However, it appears he's better at the artistic side than the business management side.

But, I've been enjoying Moffat's seasons greatly. No real complaints. Overall, I enjoy his work and RTD's work about the same amount, but for different reasons.

In the end, I wish there was a classic Doctor involved in the anniversary special. But, if not, I will likely enjoy it anyway. Still, it's a shame. These actors won't be with us forever and they contributed greatly.

Mr Awe

 

[Samurai8472]

Billie Piper spotted in Cardiff

The other three better watch out for John Hurt. He might complain of stomach pains

 

[davejames]

But, I've been enjoying Moffat's seasons greatly. No real complaints. Overall, I enjoy his work and RTD's work about the same amount, but for different reasons.

In the end, I wish there was a classic Doctor involved in the anniversary special. But, if not, I will likely enjoy it anyway. Still, it's a shame. These actors won't be with us forever and they contributed greatly.

Mr Awe

I'm the same. Despite a few missteps here and there, I've found the overall quality to be at a consistently high level since the show returned. I'm always a bit baffled at the people complaining every year about the show going downhill and becoming more terrible than ever.

And yeah, I do think it's a giant missed opportunity to not have the classic Doctors in there, but I'm not about to let that prevent me from enjoying the special we do get.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

For anyone that's curious, Whistleblower says she's been running a scam on fandom to prove how gullible and pathetic it is.

 

[Samurai8472]

Although she maintains Moffat's still an "bad tempered, narrow minded, arrogant, smug git"


And she's kinda of cute too.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

And she's kinda of cute too.

That she is, that she is.

That said, I hope the picture and the name are fake. Otherwise, she's put something out there with her name on it that would be damaging to her career, even though it was a prank.

And "bad tempered, narrow minded, arrogant, smug git"? Lawrence Miles has said worse about the Moff.

 

[sttngfan1701d]

As for Matt Smith's regeneration, the way Eleven has been talking and acting since "The Snowmen" has me thinking that he will buy it at some point saving Clara's life. He already blames himself for her Victorian version's death and Oswin saved his life in "Asylum"....he'll give up his life before she dies again. I'm sure of it.

I have to admit it does kind of seem like it's heading in that direction, with this season being Eleven's swan song. Although I really hope it's not, because I'd still love to see a lot more with Smith and Coleman together.

Of course we know he's in the 50th special after the Trenzalore episode, so presumably he at least survives that event....

Oh so do I. They are good opposite one another. But I definitely think that's where the story is heading, even if it's in season 8. And I hope Clara sticks around for the 12th Doctor too.

 

[Atticus]

And she's kinda of cute too.

That she is, that she is.

That photo isn't "her"

http://southernstardolphincruise.com/southern-star-office-staff-crew

 

[StCoop]

That photo isn't "her"

http://southernstardolphincruise.com/southern-star-office-staff-crew

Epic Fail!

First try and convince people that you're an insider by cobbling together various rumours and acting like they came from you.

When people point out what you've got wrong quickly issue some "corrections".

When people still don't fall for it pretend you were doing it all for some high-minded reason.

Then claim to be someone you're not.

Like I said before, they're the GB poster that uses the name R.E.D. Not that it really matters, since paying them attention is what they want.

 

[Captaindemotion]

Billie Piper spotted in Cardiff

The other three better watch out for John Hurt. He might complain of stomach pains

Clever!