Best female Star Trek Cast?

[Third Nacelle]

Or a huge difference between wearing a catsuit to the gym or on the bridge.

 

[Melakon]

Or a huge difference in bust size.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Then why do some people get so bent out of shape about Seven of Nine's costume? It makes no sense.

Because its their off hours, they're in the gym working out, not on active duty.

Seven (like T'Pol in ENT S4) should have been put in uniform (with no rank pips), or at least something boardering on professional.

 

[Dream]

You know it is dumb when even Moore starts complaining about Seven's wardrobe.

http://www.lcarscom.net/rdm1000118.htm

All that said, that outfit has to go! I just don’t know how else to put it. How can you really take her seriously in this getup? If you want to posit a future where we wear our sexuality on our sleeves, where it’s very open, and no one is put off by people being very sexual, that’s great. That’s very much in tune with how Gene saw the future. The rest of Voyager is not like that.

Nobody walks around with an outfit like that on the ship. You don’t go down the corridor and see some woman strolling by in a bikini on her way to the holodeck, which would be perfectly plausible. If you are really going to have the holodeck, and you are going to have beach parties down there, every once in awhile you should see somebody just strolling to the beach, doing their thing, guys in Speedo’s, or whatever. If you want to play that, play it, but to just have Jeri Ryan do it because Jeri Ryan is voluptuous and gorgeous and appeals to a certain demographic, is ludicrous! Nobody really wants to touch that. You bring it up in a meeting, ‘She’s a beautiful woman; we’ll let her look beautiful.’ Yes, she is a beautiful woman. I don’t object to that. But walk her onto the bridge, and tell me that the audience’s eyes aren’t watching her walk onto the bridge. The original series did it all the time, but that was of a piece; it was of its time; it made sense in context. Uhura [Nichelle Nichols] could walk around the bridge in a miniskirt, and in the ‘60s nobody thought that was completely insane. That was just part of the era that show was produced, and people accepted it.

Seven of Nine, what are you thinking? It kills me, and it was always just vaguely embarrassing when you would have to do serious scenes with her in the room. You are just sitting there thinking, ‘Well, you essentially have this naked woman at the table.’ Everybody is just supposed to pretend like that is okay, but you don’t play anyone else like that. Why doesn’t Janeway come to the bridge in a halter-top one day. Seriously, why doesn’t Tom [Robert Duncan McNeill] where hot pants periodically. The characters don’t act that way. They don’t were their sexuality on their sleeve except her. I’ll even go one more.

Let’s say that given all that, you still say: she’s a Borg; she’s expressing herself in a different way than the rest of the crew. She is shaking them up a little bit, and she is not afraid of her sexuality, or her impact, or the way she looks. Why isn’t she sleeping with the crew? Why isn’t she like jumping into bed with Chakotay, or jumping into bed with Tom, with anyone? If you are going to do it, do it. Otherwise, it’s just eye candy with no content.

It doesn’t mean anything. It’s just a way to watch her walk around the bridge. It’s a disservice to Jeri, because she gets the brunt of it. She’s the one that has to answer the questions about the costume, and has to defend it, and has to talk about that it doesn’t really bother her. It may not bother her, and that’s fine, but I think it does a disservice to her, and to her character, because it’s the primary characteristic of her character, and that’s unfortunate.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

^ Trois's dressed just like my mom going to Jazzercize in 1988. Why do science fiction costume designers always think that what's in fashion right now will last 400 years with only a few tweaks?

And yet Jake gets crap for his shirts. CAN'T WIN.

 

[Third Nacelle]

I loved Jake's weird full-body outfits with the weird stripes, or Quark's suits - at least they were creative.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Those crazy kids and their full body outfits.

Quark now, he's just fantastic in every outfit other than Profit and Lace.. though that was very impressive lycra.

Spoiler: Very Impressive Lycra

 

[Third Nacelle]

The Ferengi certainly have a "more is more" approach to style.

Quark was much more believable as a woman in Facets.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

I can't wait until I get to the breasted Quark episode... what season is it in?

 

[Melakon]

. . .
Quark now, he's just fantastic in every outfit other than Profit and Lace.. though that was very impressive lycra.

Why O why did I click that when I knew very well what it was going to be.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Captain Kathryn it's at the end of the sixth season and is a truly terrible episode. And I love the Ferengi with all my heart. It would have to be in my top 5 most disliked eps (of which I can only think of 3, that's how stupidly generous I am with Star Trek).

Still, don't skip it.

 

[Third Nacelle]

Well it's mostly terrible, but worth it just to hear the Slug-O-Cola slogan.

 

[Captain Kathryn]

Captain Kathryn it's at the end of the sixth season and is a truly terrible episode. And I love the Ferengi with all my heart. It would have to be in my top 5 most disliked eps (of which I can only think of 3, that's how stupidly generous I am with Star Trek).

Still, don't skip it.

I don't skip episodes anyway, but especially not Quark with woman boobage.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It's like some intensely embarrassing sitcom. All the humour hinges on gender cliches.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Janeway and Seven were great. B'elana I loved in the first season but they never really took her anywhere interesting after Dreadnought. And I did like Kes.

Unfortunately in Star Trek there isn't much competition insofar as female casts go. TOS? Psh. TNG? They could barely get actresses to stay on the show. Enterprise? T'Pol is good, Sato had her moments in the later seasons but was used terribly at the start and barely in general. DS9's the only real competition. I might go with DS9 just cause I really like Kira and I think they just had a better grasp on how to combine femininity with toughness.

 

[R. Star]

Profit and Lace... ugh.. there are so many cringe moments in that episode it's painful to even think about.

 

[Melakon]

If it's worth anything, Armin himself hated the script.

 

[Dal Rassak]

best actress? Nana Visitor as Kira, no contest. She was given a great role and completely made it her own. Such a traumatized character, with so many levels to her. Just watch her in "Second Skin" or "Duet". 24-carat gold performance.

Second up has to be Louise Fletcher as Winn. Deliciously hateful.

I agree that on the whole, despite the much quoted total gender equality, Trek often doesn't seem to know what to do with its female characters.
In the original series, they were basically just there as eye-candy. I mean those mini-mini skirts? on duty? really? The only job you do in that kind of outfit is streetwalking.
TNG still had a bad hangover from the first series in that respect.
In DS9 the female characters finally grew up. Better writing, hence scope for better acting.

But with 7 of 9 we're back to the general Barbie doll scheme, looks-wise. I can guess what the scriptwriters were thinking: what's the wet dream of every computer nerd? oh yeah - a Borg with boobs!!
Even with Kira they had to stick her in something as close to a catsuit as they could get, after starting the character off in the more sensible-looking two-piece uniform that in my opinion looked a lot better. It's not that I don't love to see a bit of figure in a good-looking woman - but I like to take the characters seriously. People who are meant to be professional counsellors and militia officers walking around in what are basically bodystockings - it just doesn't give the right impression.

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

DS9's the only real competition. I might go with DS9 just cause I really like Kira and I think they just had a better grasp on how to combine femininity with toughness.

DS9 did have the best female cast. Kira had a great arc through the series and has to be the most kick-ass character in Trek.

best actress? Nana Visitor as Kira, no contest. She was given a great role and completely made it her own. Such a traumatized character, with so many levels to her. Just watch her in "Second Skin" or "Duet". 24-carat gold performance.

Kira was a great character and Ms Visitor was brilliant in bringing her to life. Those episodes just show how damn good she was, dealing with her own personal struggle after the Occupation.

But with 7 of 9 we're back to the general Barbie doll scheme, looks-wise. I can guess what the scriptwriters were thinking: what's the wet dream of every computer nerd? oh yeah - a Borg with boobs!!
Even with Kira they had to stick her in something as close to a catsuit as they could get, after starting the character off in the more sensible-looking two-piece uniform that in my opinion looked a lot better. It's not that I don't love to see a bit of figure in a good-looking woman - but I like to take the characters seriously. People who are meant to be professional counsellors and militia officers walking around in what are basically bodystockings - it just doesn't give the right impression.

Seven's outfit never said "take me seriously as a member of the crew. Kira's S4-6 uniform was a radical departure from her original (especially how no other Bajoran wore that version), but I liked the lack of shoulderpads. It looked easier to move in and for a woman of action like Kira she kind of needs it. Her S7 colonel uniform (and hairdo) I really liked though.

 

[R. Star]

If it's worth anything, Armin himself hated the script.

If I was told a part of my professional job involved me having to dress up as a woman and have a lecherous troll chase after me trying to rape me, I'd hate it too.