Am I the only one who loves SGU?

[TremblingBluStar]

But then you get into the stupidity of everyone accepting blindly that some complete stranger is their loved one. Esepcially when you realize that conjugal visits were the norm for stone swaps.

I don't recall Eli ever having sex!

Or Scott for that matter.

Either way, I agree. The only person we saw having serious issues accepting that her loved one was in another body was Eli's mom, who was shown to be not exactly level headed to begin with. Allowing the crew to have sex while inhabiting another person's body was obviously done for dramatic sake. Ignoring the obvious question of possible disease and pregnancy (seriously, judge! It is my kid, but when she got pregnant my body was taken over by someone in another galaxy!), we saw how awkward it was to have the connection interrupted mid sex!

It was cool that they showed what would happen if someone didn't want to return to their body, or found out that their body now has a healthy dose of radiation poisoning. Overall, I felt like the stones were a good idea, but kind of which they, along with the disconnected from loved ones motif were used far far more on Atlantis with that show taking a more dramatic turn instead of being cancelled for another series.

Don't get me wrong - I really liked SGU - but it seemed like wasted potential to cancel one show for another with virtually the same premise (lost crew on alien city/vessel in another galaxy) just to have a more dramatic style.

 

[Sindatur]

Scott didn't need to have stone sex, he was having sex with Chloe in his own body at home on Destiny, and Eli got to with his cute redhead on Destiny, at least once, I think

 

[The Wormhole]

Eli got to with his cute redhead on Destiny, at least once, I think

All we know canonically is that he took his shirt off while in her room.

Hey, I'm sorry, canon is canon.

 

[Sindatur]

Eli got to with his cute redhead on Destiny, at least once, I think

All we know canonically is that he took his shirt off while in her room.

Hey, I'm sorry, canon is canon.

Man, that's cold. Dude gets play once in 2 years, and you wanna take it away from him

 

[Angel4576]

Yes, I miss SGU. The 'stones' were a mistake, just as Atlantis managing to get back to Earth so soon was a mistake.

Voyager, Atlantis, Universe - one day someone's going to do the 'stranded far from home' story well.

That being said, Universe was definitely getting better with season 2.

A shame that there was no season 3, and an even bigger shame that there's no new SG fullstop now......

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Eli got to with his cute redhead on Destiny, at least once, I think

All we know canonically is that he took his shirt off while in her room.

Hey, I'm sorry, canon is canon.

Man, that's cold. Dude gets play once in 2 years, and you wanna take it away from him

AND she was the perfect gamer boy fantasy.

 

[The Wormhole]

Eli got to with his cute redhead on Destiny, at least once, I think

All we know canonically is that he took his shirt off while in her room.

Hey, I'm sorry, canon is canon.

Man, that's cold. Dude gets play once in 2 years, and you wanna take it away from him

All I'm saying is that canonically speaking we don't know for a fact that any hanky-panky took place. All we know, canonically speaking is that he went into her room, took his shirt off, and was not seen when Wray dropped by and saw the shirt laying there.

This is a Star Trek forum, that means we have to be anal and accept only that which is made clear and definitive on screen as actual canon.

Or we can take this a step further and suggest that it was actually someone else in the room. Do we know for a canonical fact that no one else on Destiny had a red "You Are Here" t-shirt?

I can go at this all day.

 

[TremblingBluStar]

Or we can take this a step further and suggest that it was actually someone else in the room. Do we know for a canonical fact that no one else on Destiny had a red "You Are Here" t-shirt?

I can go at this all day.

Maybe they swapped shirts. She wore his red one, and he went around wearing size extra-small, women para-military garb. Ya never know!

Which brings up another nitpick that always bothered me about SGU - two years, and nobody at any point (at least that we saw on screen) said to themselves and others "ya know... I am starting to stink a bit. Maybe we should find a way to make some new clothes so we don't have to wear the same shit all the time!"

I mean, I realize resources were limited, and that there was no doubt some way to clean their clothes as well as bathe (it was a wonder Eli's shirt didn't fade at all in two years), but still. Wasn't there any ancient sewing machines around? They clearly had bedding, and other sources of fabric. Someone make Eli a new shirt for God's sake!

 

[Skywalker]

When SGU first aired in 2009, I was really reluctant about it because I thought they were just trying to imitate BSG. So I went into it with this preconception that it was just going to be a BSG clone. I watched the premiere and the first couple of episodes, but after "Light" I decided I'd had enough and I gave up on it. I found the show to be really dull and cliched, with bad caricatures and overplayed angst. Basically clone of BSG without the quality, like I'd imagined it would be.

But now I really regret dropping the show. On a whim I decided to give it another shot and started watching the first season again a few days ago. I don't know what's different, but now I absolutely love the show. I've already burned through most of Season One (just watched "Lost," episode fifteen, earlier today) and I can't wait to see how this one ends and how Season Two turns out.

I feel like an idiot for giving up on the show when I did, and I'm also really disappointed that SGU only got two seasons. I guess a lot of people reacted to it similar to how I did and the numbers just dropped too much. Too bad.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Or we can take this a step further and suggest that it was actually someone else in the room. Do we know for a canonical fact that no one else on Destiny had a red "You Are Here" t-shirt?

I can go at this all day.

Maybe they swapped shirts. She wore his red one, and he went around wearing size extra-small, women para-military garb. Ya never know!

Which brings up another nitpick that always bothered me about SGU - two years, and nobody at any point (at least that we saw on screen) said to themselves and others "ya know... I am starting to stink a bit. Maybe we should find a way to make some new clothes so we don't have to wear the same shit all the time!"

I mean, I realize resources were limited, and that there was no doubt some way to clean their clothes as well as bathe (it was a wonder Eli's shirt didn't fade at all in two years), but still. Wasn't there any ancient sewing machines around? They clearly had bedding, and other sources of fabric. Someone make Eli a new shirt for God's sake!

Resources were not limited when it comes to fabric. They should have all ended up dressed in those quilts of which there were clearly an abundance.

 

[DrunkUncle]

I liked the show from the start. Interesting plots and good actors, unlike Atlantis.

 

[Star Wolf]

Eli got to with his cute redhead on Destiny, at least once, I think

All we know canonically is that he took his shirt off while in her room.

Hey, I'm sorry, canon is canon.

Man, that's cold. Dude gets play once in 2 years, and you wanna take it away from him

Wait a minute we have the Eli who ended up on the planet which jump started the civilization where they played it that he was the last one to hook up with a most likely lesbian Marine who had kids for the team when Wray would not. Although to be fair Wray was at an age where a possible pregnancy was not a sure thing

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm sure they could have rigged up a turkey baster for Wray. They needed children and every extra bit in the gene pool was going to benefit their future. How come she got to be selfish and others didn't?

 

[Skywalker]

That does make me wonder something, though. I'm not very knowledgeable about population statistics and the gene pool and all that, so... There were about 80 people (give or take) on Destiny, right? Is that enough people to create a population numbering in the millions two thousand years later without any significant genetic complications?

 

[AJ86]

I remember someone doing the maths, and it was indeed possible to do healthily, but it would have needed strict organization. More likely they just went at it as normal people would, and the gene pool suffered early on. Still, it would certainly have been possible.

 

[Star Wolf]

I'm sure they could have rigged up a turkey baster for Wray. They needed children and every extra bit in the gene pool was going to benefit their future. How come she got to be selfish and others didn't?

She is old enough that it was not a sure thing. Perhaps she was sterilized somewhere in her past and then her only duty to the society would have been as a sexual partner for an excess straight man. But SGU didn't play it like that, we were lead to believe the Eli was the last man left standing and the cute Corporal had their child.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

So maybe they did turkey baste and it failed?

How old is Wray anyway?

The last man standing thing was stupid, Eli is very smart and reasonably good looking. Has shown himself to be practical and a hard worker. The only reason I can see for his last man status was that he was younger than a lot of them.

 

[Skywalker]

Maybe Wray just can't have children. And if she's around the same age as her actress, Ming-Na, she was probably in her mid- to late forties.

As for Eli being the "last man standing," in a real-world scenario he probably wouldn't have been because he's a smart guy, gets along well with just about everyone, and is reasonably attractive (and probably would be even more so if he shed some weight, which more than likely would have happened after a few years of hard living on Novus). But it makes sense from a dramatic standpoint, and he ended up with someone in the end, so it's all good.

 

[Star Wolf]

So maybe they did turkey baste and it failed?

How old is Wray anyway?

The last man standing thing was stupid, Eli is very smart and reasonably good looking. Has shown himself to be practical and a hard worker. The only reason I can see for his last man status was that he was younger than a lot of them.

They were all presumably smart however either Stargate Special Forces or contracted civilian specialist. Only the Lucian Alliance survivors should have added Common Joe DNA to the pool.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I'm not really sure Greer was all that smart. And some of the others didn't come across too bright either.. though if you were in a survival situation you would pick Greer over a dorky scientist.