There's a trailer apparently.....

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by Transwarp Drive, Oct 12, 2012.

  1. teacake

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    Trekmovie is not that big that a search on key words would find it soon enough.

    I'm suspecting Quinto said something humorously and a bunch of drama queens in the comments section went on a jag about how it sounded like he was distancing himself.
     
  2. Transwarp Drive

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    Like I said before, even evidencing it here is pointless as someone invariably calls foul and that's the end of the 'debate'.

    :evil:

    That said, we now have 'evidence' of divas and unhappy actors.......LOL

    And how can't we believe a website wit the name 'BlindGossip?'

    http://blindgossip.com/?p=41527
     
  3. teacake

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    That's all ya got?

    A tired looking Quinto saying the movie is a collaborative effort and doesn't all come down to the actors?
     
  4. Transwarp Drive

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    Take your pick chap, I'm not your secretary although I do make a nice cup of tea.
     
  5. teacake

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    Take my pick of what?
     
  6. M'Sharak

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    I hadn't considered that you wouldn't be able to get to the page. Quoting the pertinent bits:

    (There's more about some celebrity drunk, a Grammy-winner's failing marriage, a reality-show mom who stole money to put her child through dance class, and a Desperate Housewife. None are identified by name.)

    [Edit: I see that the gossip page you linked is quoting from the above source. - M']

    Oh, imaginations among commenters in the TrekMovie threads are just as active and varied as any to be found here, and there are liable to be some darker corners of the internets checking in now and then. Without seeing the posts in question, I wouldn't even want to guess at where the "distancing" notion might be coming from. Comments on any news thread are best taken with a grain of salt, anyway.
     
  7. Transwarp Drive

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    Agreed, absolutely - and thank you for the filling in the blanks around the links.

    That said, there isn't much out there to back up the fact it's good either.

    Any 'informed opinion' I have is around actors who don't like each other and the possibility of a terrible film, sounds like the original franchise to me!

    :lol:

    As a matter of interest, is there a film in recent memory which was sunk by the news and rumours coming off the set before it was released?
     
  8. Transwarp Drive

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    Of whatever Google tells you when you search appropriately.
     
  9. teacake

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    If I want people's wild ass opinions about how the movie is fail because Quinto said it was a collaborative effort I can just stay right here in this thread, no need to google for more of it :lol:
     
  10. Jackson_Roykirk

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    Meh. To me it sounds like he was just looking for a way to worm his way into promoting the indie films he producing, probably looking for distributors or other producers.:

    I mean, he's at a film festival, and he is a producer of indie films. Indie film producers are perpetually in search of distributors (or money in general), so of course he is going to try and use this article as a way of promoting his production efforts. I don't blame him.

    He was speaking to "The Wrap" magazine and a judge at their indie film festival. He was considering the audience. He wasn't speaking to "Star Trek Magazine".
     
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  11. Transwarp Drive

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    :lol:

    That's all any of this is though, isn't it?

    I'll tell you something else, people are talking about he death of a major character too, it wouldn't surprise me if like TWOK, that major character is Spock.

    First movie, encounters major anomaly, defeats it. TMP/ST2009

    Second movie, defeats major baddie, someone dies. TWOK/STID

    Third movie, redemption, friendship and reunion. TSFS/TBA

    I don't think this is lost on Abrams either, it's his nod to the TOS movies, what's more 'into darkness' than death? Spock dies a fiery death saving his shipmates.
     
  12. teacake

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    This will not happen. I'll bet you credits to navy beans.
     
  13. Spock/Uhura Fan

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    Surprise, surprise.

    Well, the Inquirer thing could be anything, including a complete fabrication. Really, the only three people that make sense would be Quinto, Saldana, and/or Pine. Both Urban and Pegg have been in movies (and I know MI:GP was a hit), but I wouldn't say that they are "bigger stars" now because of them. For now, I'm just going to assume that this "report" is fake.

    On the Quinto thing, it was probably this interview. He mentioned that it's in the hands of JJ and the writers/producers, etc., right now and that making a film is an "enormous collaboration," which is true. I think the part people might be talking about is this:

    I think that's a very healthy take on things, but it does sound like "we did our jobs, now it's time for them to do theirs, and anything that happens now is up to them." It's not exactly distancing, but it goes back to what he said, that it's a collaborative effort and it's not all on the actors. Then you also have Cho doing an interview where he says the film "may be magnificent," lol. It's a nice statement, but it doesn't exactly inspire confidence. People will see soon enough.

    Okay, hopefully I can do you a favor here and just let you know that sometimes the comments section at websites is not the best place for you to draw your conclusions. I'm not trying to say anything too negative about anybody, but I know for a fact that that particular sight (at least when I was there) was not a bastion of moderate posting. Since that was the first Trek community I encountered (thanks to Google), I didn't know until much later that this was more the exception and not so much the norm. There's literally a little gang of people there that try to drive off anyone that disagrees with the main views held there. So, FWIW, I'd take that comments section with a LARGE grain of salt. This could be true for anywhere to be fair.

    Probably. I just remember laughing because it sounded like "if anything's wrong with this film, don't blame the actors," but of course I didn't think he was saying that the film "sucked." That would be a stretch.

    Yes, but he's been inaugurated into the role of "Spock," which he must learn is a lifetime commitment. That can be great or it can the equivalent of a roach motel. If being an actor hasn't taught him that "anything you say, can and will be used against you in the court of public opinion," then some Star Trek fans will, lol. :rofl:
     
  14. Transwarp Drive

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    I don't know anyone who takes the comments section of an internet site seriously, me included. What is more interesting is themes, simularities and identifiable trends, the source is important but the general context is as interesting. Perhaps in the USA/UK, for example, there is too much emphasis on uncorroborated information (the invasion of Iraq because of WMD for example LOL) but certainly not here in NZ.

    On that basis, and depending upon what you choose to believe, I think there's some negativity around this movie from within.
     
  15. Spock/Uhura Fan

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    Oh, you all aren't immune. I think you just happen to think that's the case. And emphasis by whom? Everyone? How could you at all know that?

    I think anyone, anywhere, can make claims that are uncorroborated or even outlandish. There's a lady from NZ at trekmovie (since that's the American site that started this part of the discussion) that wanted to believe that Kirk fans are all blondes that are outgoing and happy just because it made her feel good. Now, is that corroborated? And is that even a possible thing to do?

    As for "themes, simularities and identifiable trends," that's something to leave to tabloids, imo. I just know what I think based off of what I read/see/hear from real sources. That's enough for me. I don't think I have the time (or interest) to track trends.
     
  16. teacake

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    It sounds like I've missed some good stuff by not reading over there!
     
  17. Transwarp Drive

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    She is from NZ therefore she is right, it's the Kiwi birthright to be cut off from the entire planet but know more about it than anyone. I say that as a Brit living in NZ. It's just the way they are!

    They think LOTR is a Kiwi thing, for example.

    Unrelated as it may be, the WMD dossier that the Iraq war was based upon was an uncorroborated disaster of innuendo and suggestion, if its good enough to go to war on, it's good enough to throw at Into Darkness.

    :lol:
     
  18. Transwarp Drive

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    :guffaw:
     
  19. Spock/Uhura Fan

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    LOL, I can laugh now, but back then... :eek::scream: And It's hard to believe now that I even had that discussion, which ran for days! I should have dropped it as soon as this "theory" (which conversely states that all Spock fans are brunettes that are fat, gothic, reclusive, and unhappy) was suggested by someone else there, and she latched on to it with a devoted passion. My excuse? Being in a chicken coop long enough will make you go "cluckin' crazy" if you don't watch out.
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    It's good to be here.

    Well, I've only interacted with the one NZ person, so I'll take your word for it. And yes, the WMD thing was an utter disaster. The people that wanted actual facts before going to war were steamrolled. I'd much rather that happen with a movie than a country.
     
  20. teacake

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    I expect you made quick work of correcting these hussies. How dare they appropriate!