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Ungrateful Actors

I read somewhere that at any given moment, 90% of actors aren't working. Most actors, especially ones starting out, would kill for a series gig. Steady paycheck, little to no travel, greater industry exposure, the chance to direct, etc. Compare that to most actors who go to countless auditions and struggle just to get bit parts and pay rent. So to see people like Garrett Wang and Robert Beltran, who aren't very good actors to begin with, badmouth Voyager is pretty disappointing.

On the one hand, I'm glad they're speaking out. Much of what they've said is what I and a lot of other fans think, that the writing was formulaic, that Seven of Nine got too much attention, that Rick Berman and Brannon Braga were incompetent. But you'd think they'd be more appreciative of the opportunity they were given.

Take Wang. Had barely any acting experience when he auditioned for Voyager, was hired over 100 other people, and in the early seasons he had a reputation for tardiness. If it hadn't been for People Magazine naming him to their 50 Most Beautiful Persons list, I'm sure he would've been let go instead of Jennifer Lien. But instead of being grateful that he didn't get the ax, instead of being grateful that he gets paid a lot of money to just stand there, he whines about not being allowed to direct. Give me a break. I'm no fan of Rick Berman. I think he's made some really bad decisions. But not letting Wang direct was one of the best things he ever did. From the sound of it, he didn't earn that privilege.

And then there's Beltran who complained about not having enough to do. Well maybe if you showed more interest in your job, your bosses would've listened. Kate Mulgrew, Robert Picardo, and Roxann Dawson all went to the writers and offered ideas to help shape their characters. But Beltran couldn't even bother reading entire scripts. Why would anyone want to write material for an actor with his attitude?

I think Kate Mulgrew had the right mindset. I'm sure she didn't always care for the way the writers wrote her character. And I know it had to be difficult to see them bring in Borg Barbie and give her all the good material. But she also seemed to appreciate what she had. A steady job on a hit show, a loyal fan base, and a cast who, for the most part, was fun to be around.

People like Wang and Beltran are just overprivileged, ungrateful children who don't deserve any sympathy. But I look forward to hearing them spill more dirt about Voyager.


Mr. ShatnersToupee, remind me to explain to you the concept of human ego.
 
I'm not happy with the way Voyager was handled by those in charge...
No shit, really? :lol:

It sounds like a good post-apocalyptic science fiction story... the last person on earth who still gives a shit.
 
^^
Well, I'm happy that I still care about things. Maybe I'm actually the last really living person on this planet.

Guy Gardener wrote:
The first novels were probably written from the bible before the series was completely cast, wich explains how that Nicole Janeway book slipped through.

Which book was that? I have all the season 1-3 Voyager books and I haven't seen the name "Nicole Janeway" in any of them. Have I missed something? Is there a season 1-3 Voyager book which I've missed? :eek:

I know that the books "The Escape" and "Ragnarok" were written before the series went on air and that the author of the book "Violations" started to write the book before any episode was aired (see the Kes Website's book reviews for further details) but Nicole janeway wasn't mentioned in any of them, not even in the pilot episode book "Caretaker".
 
That's the one were Nicole looks into Chakotays eyes and says "At some point I'm going to want children, so when the time comes just shut your eyes and remember I could have left you on Ocampa."
 
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Sorry, that sentence is not in any of the Voyager books I own and Nicole Janeway isn't mentioned either.
 
It could be worse. Instead of bringing in Wang as Kim, they could have had Wil Wheaton return as Wesley to fill the role. :D
 
The cover has Tom in a space suit, with long floral print Hawaiian shorts over the top, stuck to the outside of voyagers hull, exposed to the universe pretending that he's surfing.

It's a classic.

I almost bought a poster of it for my living room.
 
It could be worse. Instead of bringing in Wang as Kim, they could have had Wil Wheaton return as Wesley to fill the role. :D

Weaselly was written badly.

Will Wheaton is awesome, and that would have eventually shon through.

Hey I liked Wesley myself at the time TNG was airing, but hey.. I was a kid back then so it was easy for me to picture myself in the role which was COOL, let me tell you. :p

It was only when the DVDs first came out and I rewatched it thourghly I started to realize how annoying the character was.

I can't say I know much about Wil Wheaton personally, but if TNG's writers couldn't do much with him, what makes you think Voyager's would be able to?
 
They wouldn't.

They can't.

But back then I had hope.

Stand by Me.

The kid started big.

And Golly isn't he entertaining on Big Bang and Eureka.

Brent Spiner "That Sheldon kid says that he wants to be my nemesis, should I be worried?"

Will Wheaton "Don't worry, it takes up much less time than you'd think."
 
Consider if his wardrobe budget was semi frozen?

That cat suit sock he wore year after year would have just gotten tighter and tighter as his body gained a more adult definition everywhere.
 
^^
No!

Because:
It doesn't,
and you can't,
I won't,
and it don't
it hasn't,
it isn't,
it even ain't,
and it shouldn't
it couldn't
:D
 
Girls I am told really like toned arms.

Definition is more important than outright size.

However the noodle limbed should wallow in their virginity gracelessly.

Something about needing their lover not to be winded when they're being carried over the threshhold.
 
The first novels were probably written from the bible before the series was completely cast, wich explains how that Nicole Janeway book slipped through.

The error that slipped through in several early novels - due to authors having to use the writers' bible because no episodes were ready - was the assumption that the EMH would be known as "Zimmerman" only a few episodes into the first season. As we know now, he was created by a Dr Zimmerman, and tried out numerous names, but didn't end up picking a permanent one until "Endgame".
 
Even that is in doubt though, given he made that choice in a future that has since been altered.....
 
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