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Just spotted another VFX error. In Heart of Glory during the breakout scene the security officer is killed by an invisible phaser beam.

I haven't made it this far yet, I'm still on disc 2. Does anyone know if this is present in the original release? Does the sound effect still occur?

Here's a cap of the original effect http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x20/heartofglory201.jpg

Thanks.

That really is terrible. Did they try changing the effect or something, I notice the caps you provided include a some circles radiating out of the blast. I'm not sure how they could have missed something that major.
 
I haven't made it this far yet, I'm still on disc 2. Does anyone know if this is present in the original release? Does the sound effect still occur?

Here's a cap of the original effect http://tng.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/s1/1x20/heartofglory201.jpg

On the Bluray, the sound effect is still there, so is the white blast of the phaser hitting him, but the phaser beam itself is missing. Five screenshots here: http://imgur.com/a/tjr4t

:lol: Definitely a candidate for a "caption this" thread.

Even with the errors, I'm really enjoying the blu-ray release. I agree with NewHorizon, that the studio should have a group of Trekkie "beta" testers. No doubt there would be thousands, if not tens of thousands of willing participants.
 
Just spotted another VFX error. In Heart of Glory during the breakout scene the security officer is killed by an invisible phaser beam.

I watched the scene and I think it plays just fine. In fact the perspective actually makes MORE sense now, as the beam should have come from the middle of the shot and not the side anyway (since the Klingon was shooting from the corridor and not the brig).
 
So I'm on disc 2 of the set (was only going to watch The Naked Now last night but just couldn't help myself and kept going) EaF audio is annoying of course, but one curiosity I noticed that sets these discs apart from The Next Level:

I'm watching on my PS3, which usually identifies a BD disc with its name and a thumbnail, but so far, the first 2 discs read only as BDMV BD-ROM and a generic disc of a thumbnail. Almost hardly worth mentioning, but may be yet another symptom of the apparent rush CBS was under to author these discs. The Next Level shows the appropriate title and an understated thumbnail of the TNG text logo by the way.

Definitely a bit annoying to have to select English each time the disc loads as well. Oh well, time for Where No One Has Gone Before! :techman:

Edited to add: Nice to see the ventral running light of the Excelsior class Fearless blinking away (unlike the Hood's defective strobe in EaF :D )
 
You know, in spite of the problems this set apparently has with the audio and some missing effects (like the phaser beam)... Damn these are just awesome to watch in such high resolution. I was even able to put up with "Code of Honor" on BD.

(And, yeah, I noticed the lack of a ST:TNG BD thumbnail on the PS3's dashboard for the disc and, instead, has a generic "Blue Ray" button like it does for DVDs. No big deal, but still a "something."

I'm not too big a fan of the packaging with this set, however. Specifically its size and the lack of a proper chapter-selection sheet. I'm debating on swapping out the BD discs with the DVD ones but then there's different numbers of discs.
 
I'll admit that it's a bit of a downer hearing about these problems plaguing the blu-ray set. I hope at the very least the audio gets fixed in the future. While they're at it they should fix some of the missing effects.

The more we dig deeper into this set the more problems we seem to find.

I seriously hope CBS shape up and avoid these problems when it comes to season 2.
 
I'm beginning to wonder if expectations might be too high. It's starting to sound like people can't accept that the release isn't perfect in every possible way.

Is there ever any product that is entirely flawless? Overwhelmingly, this blu ray set is a vast and massive improvement (warts and all) over the flaws inherent in the DVD version. In fact I can't think of any piece of merchandise in the history of the franchise that offered more in terms of value and quality.

How some people can get riled up about minor limitations truly amazes me.
 
^ Well, I'd say that people notice and mention these defects is pretty natural: We're all hugely excited about what has been done and eager to find out what has been changed, which causes a level of scrutiny to be applied that leads to these things being discussed.

I think it's fair game to discuss them. I also agree that they shouldn't really because for much anger, though, it's a fairly insignificant error rate in context of the amount of work that had to be done here.
 
^ Well, I'd say that people notice and mention these defects is pretty natural: We're all hugely excited about what has been done and eager to find out what has been changed, which causes a level of scrutiny to be applied that leads to these things being discussed.

I think it's fair game to discuss them. I also agree that they shouldn't really because for much anger, though, it's a fairly insignificant error rate in context of the amount of work that had to be done here.

Oh don't get me wrong, I'm totally fine with things being discussed. I was one of the people who brought up one of the audio problems after all. I just find it a shame that for some these easily surmountable issues cloud the enjoyment and acceptance of this unique release.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable to bemoan these not minor sound problems with the set.

I doubt they actually wanted to release a compromised set, so why should people be satisfied with one?
 
Niggling things like missing effects or some effects not looking 100% perfect are one thing, cosmetic effects (I'm not happy with the menu screens, myself) is another. But the sound issue is a rather big defect that should not have happened.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable to bemoan these not minor sound problems with the set.
This. I wouldn't have even posted about the other issues, but the errors with the DTS Master Audio are significant - a major cock-up. I really hope CBS do the honourable thing and offer a replacement scheme.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable to bemoan these not minor sound problems with the set.
This. I wouldn't have even posted about the other issues, but the errors with the DTS Master Audio are significant - a major cock-up. I really hope CBS do the honourable thing and offer a replacement scheme.

I'd be satisfied with a twenty dollar coupon towards season two. :techman:
 
I'm a little concerned about the increasing number of issues that are cropping up with regards to the season 1 release. I wonder what went wrong - a lack of proper QC? Rushing to meet a deadline? A little of both? Hopefully CBS will correct the issues and offer replacements. And as much as I want to get my hands on season 2, I hope the studio takes the time to ensure that no errors exist before releasing it.
 
I don't think it's unreasonable to bemoan these not minor sound problems with the set.
This. I wouldn't have even posted about the other issues, but the errors with the DTS Master Audio are significant - a major cock-up. I really hope CBS do the honourable thing and offer a replacement scheme.

I'd be satisfied with a twenty dollar coupon towards season two. :techman:
On balance, I think I'd rather have a corrected set of season 1 episodes though!
 
I'm a little concerned about the increasing number of issues that are cropping up with regards to the season 1 release. I wonder what went wrong - a lack of proper QC? Rushing to meet a deadline? A little of both? Hopefully CBS will correct the issues and offer replacements. And as much as I want to get my hands on season 2, I hope the studio takes the time to ensure that no errors exist before releasing it.

The QC people probably just did the same thing the review sites did-- checked a handful of episodes where the video and audio appeared to be fine, and assumed the rest would be as well.

It was obviously a screw up, but I think it's an understandable one. And I seriously doubt it was anything the main team did wrong; it was just an error in how their work was translated to disc.
 
Ok, wow. I finally checked out some of Haven and even on my cheapo home theater system it sounds tinny as hell.
 
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