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Green Lantern Series

having all of Batman's foes be billionaire martial artists with state-of-the-art crime-causing technology.

While I don't know about the martial artist thing. That guy isn't available as he is Spider-Man's nemesis, or at least except for the Marvel event where he seemed to be going after Iron Man.
 
I agree. It's actually simplistic story telling pretending to be other wise. I HATE villains that are pretty much just mirror copies of the hero. And this... it's a meh.

*Looks at Zoom's avatar. Looks up Professor Zoom's name.

Hmmm...

Well... YEAH... sigh... Busted.

BUT, I guess it's actually more of the exception that proves the rule...? Yeah? No?

The time that it was the most egregious was when the Martian Manhunter had his own book in the late 90s, and of course, his rival had to be a Martian...

At least Zoom is sorta interesting... right? Right?
 
I agree. It's actually simplistic story telling pretending to be other wise. I HATE villains that are pretty much just mirror copies of the hero. And this... it's a meh.

*Looks at Zoom's avatar. Looks up Professor Zoom's name.

Hmmm...

Well... YEAH... sigh... Busted.

BUT, I guess it's actually more of the exception that proves the rule...? Yeah? No?

The time that it was the most egregious was when the Martian Manhunter had his own book in the late 90s, and of course, his rival had to be a Martian...

At least Zoom is sorta interesting... right? Right?

Well at least its not Negative Wonder Woman

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpv1wOwRnA[/yt]
 
*Looks at Zoom's avatar. Looks up Professor Zoom's name.

Hmmm...

Well... YEAH... sigh... Busted.

BUT, I guess it's actually more of the exception that proves the rule...? Yeah? No?

The time that it was the most egregious was when the Martian Manhunter had his own book in the late 90s, and of course, his rival had to be a Martian...

At least Zoom is sorta interesting... right? Right?

Well at least its not Negative Wonder Woman

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFpv1wOwRnA[/yt]

I don't know... there's something about Negative Wonder Woman that I like....
 
Dont worry Zoom your safe in my book. A very interesting and deadly character which is the exception to the rule and far better than Bizarro.
 
I'm surprised we're up to episode 12 already. And I'm disappointed that the season is so short. I've gotten used to Cartoon Network shows having 26-episode seasons.

I'm not crazy about the whole lighthouse/asteroid-barrier thing. The cosmology is ridiculous. Guardian space is supposed to be huge, encompassing whole galaxies. There's no way there could be a solid border that couldn't be traveled around. If there were such a large cluster of asteroids all in one place, they'd coalesce into a single planet soon enough, or into multiple planets, so they wouldn't form much of a barrier.

I mean, sure, there's room for fantasy in fiction, but it seems to me that shows aimed at young viewers should strive to be educational. Science fiction can be a very good tool for teaching the basics of astronomy, physics, and the like, and I think it's a missed opportunity when SF kids' shows misrepresent such things so profoundly.
 
I'm surprised we're up to episode 12 already. And I'm disappointed that the season is so short. I've gotten used to Cartoon Network shows having 26-episode seasons.

I'm not crazy about the whole lighthouse/asteroid-barrier thing. The cosmology is ridiculous. Guardian space is supposed to be huge, encompassing whole galaxies. There's no way there could be a solid border that couldn't be traveled around. If there were such a large cluster of asteroids all in one place, they'd coalesce into a single planet soon enough, or into multiple planets, so they wouldn't form much of a barrier.

I mean, sure, there's room for fantasy in fiction, but it seems to me that shows aimed at young viewers should strive to be educational. Science fiction can be a very good tool for teaching the basics of astronomy, physics, and the like, and I think it's a missed opportunity when SF kids' shows misrepresent such things so profoundly.


The barrier is around the Forgotten Zone. Its a limited area of space where the Guardians released the manhunters and caused all sorts of havoc. It essentially locks things in...think the galactic barrier from TOS.
 
This show has really gone from pretty good to great in just the 3 or 4 episodes IMO. I can't wait to for next week's. I'm curious if they'll actually tie up the Red Lantern story line so they can deal with new baddies, like the Sinestro Corps or something else next season.
 
The barrier is around the Forgotten Zone. Its a limited area of space where the Guardians released the manhunters and caused all sorts of havoc. It essentially locks things in...think the galactic barrier from TOS.

Doesn't make it any less nonsensical as a use of asteroids. Even that "small" zone (which was shown as equal in size to Guardian space in the graphic they showed last week, for what it's worth) encompasses dozens of star systems, so it must be dozens if not hundreds of light-years across. The amount of asteroidal mass necessary to surround all of it with an unbroken wall would be far greater than the mass of an entire galaxy. In fact, I did some quick calculations, and if the Zone is 50 ly in radius and the asteroids are silicate bodies filling about 2/3 of the volume of a spherical shell 10 km thick, then the total mass of the shell would be more than five times the estimated mass of the entire Local Group of galaxies. So as shown it's simply ridiculous, no matter what the relative size of the Zone.
 
Living planet failed to hold its inmate and stop the Red Lanterns from taking her.

I've seen more impressive planetoids...heck, I've seen more impressive asteroids.

"i'm leaving you here, Clancy Brown alien, we are all sick of you sound-alike villains."

Atrocitus just blew up the asteroids....who'd have thought that possible...besides anyone?

Aya is reprogrammable...great for those cold nights in space...;) What?
 
The barrier is around the Forgotten Zone. Its a limited area of space where the Guardians released the manhunters and caused all sorts of havoc. It essentially locks things in...think the galactic barrier from TOS.

Doesn't make it any less nonsensical as a use of asteroids. Even that "small" zone (which was shown as equal in size to Guardian space in the graphic they showed last week, for what it's worth) encompasses dozens of star systems, so it must be dozens if not hundreds of light-years across. The amount of asteroidal mass necessary to surround all of it with an unbroken wall would be far greater than the mass of an entire galaxy. In fact, I did some quick calculations, and if the Zone is 50 ly in radius and the asteroids are silicate bodies filling about 2/3 of the volume of a spherical shell 10 km thick, then the total mass of the shell would be more than five times the estimated mass of the entire Local Group of galaxies. So as shown it's simply ridiculous, no matter what the relative size of the Zone.

I think the Guardians may have had something to do with the impenetrable asteroid field. I mean its pretty convenient that the sector they would love to forget about and even covered up what happened there is nearly impossible to access.
 
I'm not interested in rationalizing it. As presented, it's complete fantasy, and it's a fool's errand to try to explain it as anything more than that. And like I said, there's nothing wrong with fantasy per se, but I do wish that SF shows aimed at young viewers would make more of an effort to be educational and get the science right, because it's a valuable opportunity that's being wasted.
 
"Galactic Barriers", space "Neutral Zones", "System-Wide Shields" and things are all nonsensical ideas, it's just a conceit of the genre.
 
How might, and where would (the real?) Professor Zoom get tenure?

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I'm surprised we're up to episode 12 already. And I'm disappointed that the season is so short. I've gotten used to Cartoon Network shows having 26-episode seasons.

In a way, it's not bad, seeing as how this is serialized, it allows for more focused storytelling, without too many episodes that divert from the main storyline. While I am enjoying Avengers: EMH and while I did love the Guardians of the Galaxy episode (and I am eagerly anticipating Beta Ray Bill today), it's hard for me to get involved in the main storyline with the Skrulls, seeing as how we get movement on that storyline and then seemingly filler episodes (really, really good filler episodes, but filler episodes nonetheless) before moving the Skrull storyline ahead.

I'm not crazy about the whole lighthouse/asteroid-barrier thing. The cosmology is ridiculous. Guardian space is supposed to be huge, encompassing whole galaxies. There's no way there could be a solid border that couldn't be traveled around. If there were such a large cluster of asteroids all in one place, they'd coalesce into a single planet soon enough, or into multiple planets, so they wouldn't form much of a barrier.

I mean, sure, there's room for fantasy in fiction, but it seems to me that shows aimed at young viewers should strive to be educational. Science fiction can be a very good tool for teaching the basics of astronomy, physics, and the like, and I think it's a missed opportunity when SF kids' shows misrepresent such things so profoundly.

The problem is, the sector thing has ALWAYS been something you file under "suspension of disbelief." The Guardians would have us believe the entire universe is neatly split into 3600 sectors, but space is infinite. There's no way that they protect the entire universe. Still, I get your point, as there would be no feasible way to block off a sector in the way the asteroid field does.

Living planet failed to hold its inmate and stop the Red Lanterns from taking her.

I've seen more impressive planetoids...heck, I've seen more impressive asteroids.

"i'm leaving you here, Clancy Brown alien, we are all sick of you sound-alike villains."

Unless it's a part of Mogo's plan, I agree with you. Except for forming the symbol around himself and half-heartedly (coredly?) shooting after them, Mogo really doesn't use the ring. You'd think he could have at least tried a construct or something.

I figure he didn't do it on purpose, because he knows of Saint Walker's role in things to come.
 
The problem is, the sector thing has ALWAYS been something you file under "suspension of disbelief." The Guardians would have us believe the entire universe is neatly split into 3600 sectors, but space is infinite. There's no way that they protect the entire universe.

See, that's one thing about this series that could've made a lot more sense than the comics' version. They treat "Guardian space" as a finite territory and acknowledge there's other stuff beyond it.


Still, I get your point, as there would be no feasible way to block off a sector in the way the asteroid field does.

But the thing is, that's not my point. That's peripheral to what I'm really taking about. My point is that an opportunity is being missed by making kids' SF shows misleading about astronomy and physics instead of being more educational. I learned a lot about space and science because science fiction fired my curiosity and made it intriguing to me. SFTV and movies could do so much to fire that same kind of fascination with science in the young, and it's a wasted opportunity that so much of what's out there has such atrocious science.
 
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