Do you think they would be so blatant about that? For some reason, I had pictured Weller as Gorkon and Eve as Azetbur, but I started to think it was silly that the actors had to fit previously established roles. Now I'm not so sure.
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Do you think they would be so blatant about that? For some reason, I had pictured Weller as Gorkon and Eve as Azetbur, but I started to think it was silly that the actors had to fit previously established roles. Now I'm not so sure.
Oh well, Star Trek *is* fiction, right?
Certainly. Like, I doubt that anybody was really upset that Captain Christopher wasn't a real person or that Roswell wasn't really Ferengi.
But with fiction it's great if it's at least relatable, meaning that any kind of mass holocaust or crazy happening ultimately has to be in "the future." The dates aren't really that important, and can probably be fluid.
It's almost like how every Terminator sequel had to constantly shift the date back. In the original, the war was supposed to come "soon", but I guess that really meant 12 years. Then when they actually gave that date, it was pushed back to 2003 in T3. Then the show pushed it even further to 2011.
To keep it relatable to modern audiences, it simply has to be in the future. They're not going to say, "Hey, remember that huge devastating war in the 90's?" And with the way JJ's creative team operates, I wouldn't entirely rule out some sort of flashback to the end of the war and Khan's escape. That could be really interesting.
Oh well, Star Trek *is* fiction, right?
Certainly. Like, I doubt that anybody was really upset that Captain Christopher wasn't a real person or that Roswell wasn't really Ferengi.
But with fiction it's great if it's at least relatable, meaning that any kind of mass holocaust or crazy happening ultimately has to be in "the future." The dates aren't really that important, and can probably be fluid.
It's almost like how every Terminator sequel had to constantly shift the date back. In the original, the war was supposed to come "soon", but I guess that really meant 12 years. Then when they actually gave that date, it was pushed back to 2003 in T3. Then the show pushed it even further to 2011.
To keep it relatable to modern audiences, it simply has to be in the future. They're not going to say, "Hey, remember that huge devastating war in the 90's?" And with the way JJ's creative team operates, I wouldn't entirely rule out some sort of flashback to the end of the war and Khan's escape. That could be really interesting.
Well in Terminator's case they kept screwing with the timeline and setting Skynet back drips and drops in doing so. Granted, it isn't like ST's pre-series timeline hasn't been jacked up pretty well too.
Khan...I knew it! Ha ha! While Weller would make a cool Gary Seven having him in a Khan movie would be a little too fanboyish and an extra element that's not needed. If I had to bet I'd bet that Weller is playing a Klingon.
I was hoping for something new or someone a bit more obscure but oh well, the last film kicked ass and I'm sure this one will too.
Ultimately they're the same thing though. One's just a retcon that you have to accept (like between T1 and T2), and another is a retcon that at least tries to explain itself. I don't think we'd have the latter, but I'd bet they'll do something similar to what DS9 did regarding those wars.
Well, I will wait and see how it plays out. Perhaps Cumberbatch as Kahn is a load of horse shit?
As some have speculated he may not be the the "KAAAHHHNNN" that we are thinking of. What if the Klingons have taken a little Kahn and added a dash of Klingon?
Outside of Trekdom how many people know Kahn's full name and ethnicity? Now I can personally rattle it off, but even if all the Joe Audiences knew the name by heart, how many are going to autmatically put Singh and Sikh together and tie in India?
Perhaps I lack faith in the intelligence of my fellow man, but if the news outlets don't run with it, how many outside of India would be outraged?
Personally having Cumberbatch be the real original recipe Kahn does seem silly to me.
However, I must say that I have seen Cumberbatch in several things and he has never disappointed. They do have a very talented actor in whatever role they have placed him in.
As some have speculated he may not be the the "KAAAHHHNNN" that we are thinking of. What if the Klingons have taken a little Kahn and added a dash of Klingon?
Outside of Trekdom how many people know Kahn's full name and ethnicity? Now I can personally rattle it off, but even if all the Joe Audiences knew the name by heart, how many are going to autmatically put Singh and Sikh together and tie in India?
Perhaps I lack faith in the intelligence of my fellow man, but if the news outlets don't run with it, how many outside of India would be outraged?
Personally having Cumberbatch be the real original recipe Kahn does seem silly to me.
However, I must say that I have seen Cumberbatch in several things and he has never disappointed. They do have a very talented actor in whatever role they have placed him in.
I want a scene where the crew tries to use a prefix code on Khan's ship and they find out that the bastard reset it to a new code.
Who knows, maybe in the new timeline Khan is a rogue Starfleet officer. Either current or ex-Starfleet that threw in with the Klingons or was captured by them and ended up gong batshit.
Who knows, maybe in the new timeline Khan is a rogue Starfleet officer. Either current or ex-Starfleet that threw in with the Klingons or was captured by them and ended up gong batshit.
Yep. Sure would be. Then have the look on Kirk's face mimic the WTF on Khan's when his shields started dropping.
I wonder if this movie will be, "Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Too".
So far, there's nothing about the movie that suggests a connection to TWOK.
Got get me wrong, I love TWOK, but damn if that one scene doesn't bug me when I think about it. Simply cause it should have been something Khan knew or saw referenced. He knew enough to cripple Enterprise, despite a massive refit, clearly he read up the newer ships...WTF Khan.
And it'd work perfect with the new Kirk: He's sure, he's confident, he's got Khan by the balls and he's going to win. Then...shit, what do you mean he changed the code.
Oh come on - what he knew was that if they thought you were a friendly and didn't raise their shields, you could shoot at them. Hardly sophisticated tactics that required any knowledge at all about the "massive refit."
Oh come on - what he knew was that if they thought you were a friendly and didn't raise their shields, you could shoot at them. Hardly sophisticated tactics that required any knowledge at all about the "massive refit."
Except for Spock's line "he knew just where to hit us". So it wasn't scatter shot attack, it was precision fire. It showed Khan knew how to hurt the ship without flat out blowing it to hell.
I think his acting, delivery, the way he can be so incredibly arrogant and cold.. he will make a great Khan. My only wish is he was browner. Or rather less uber white. I also find him quite repulsive as far as hotness goes which is a bit annoying, since Montalban was so suave. However I'm willing to believe Cumberbatch can pull it off.
I'm hoping it's not a TWOK, but Khan in a the whole new timeline. Like Kirk and Spock are connected as friends despite the timeline changing Khan and Kirk are connected as enemies.
I'm hoping it's not a TWOK, but Khan in a the whole new timeline. Like Kirk and Spock are connected as friends despite the timeline changing Khan and Kirk are connected as enemies.
I'm kind of in shock.
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